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BBC:

Real Madrid believe they will be able to sign Liverpool's Egypt forward Mohamed Salah, 27, for £126m (€150m) after offloading Wales forward Gareth Bale, 30. (El Desmarque, via Express)

German champions Bayern Munich have been in contact with representatives of Liverpool's Brazil forward Roberto Firmino, 28. (Echo)

Meanwhile, Liverpool are in advanced talks with RB Leipzig and Germany striker Timo Werner, 23. (Express)
 

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BBC:

Real Madrid believe they will be able to sign Liverpool's Egypt forward Mohamed Salah, 27, for £126m (€150m) after offloading Wales forward Gareth Bale, 30. (El Desmarque, via Express)

German champions Bayern Munich have been in contact with representatives of Liverpool's Brazil forward Roberto Firmino, 28. (Echo)

Meanwhile, Liverpool are in advanced talks with RB Leipzig and Germany striker Timo Werner, 23. (Express)
I think £126M would buy his left boot lace, as for the rest of Salah - tell them they're dreaming
 
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Not saying we will, I was saying IF we ever lost one of the front three I said Salah would be the least of the losses, still a massive loss but personally believe the other two are better players overall, just personal opinion. I would be absolutely amazed if we ever got Mbappe I just can't see that happening, not because we couldn't afford it, just seems unrealistic due to price, wages, signing on fee etc etc would be astronomical.
I really dont agree. Salah is always double marked and pulls defenders towards him creating space for the others, and still manages to be up there for the Golden boot ... he is a wonderful player and person and I cant see any combination of money and other players delivering better never mind the same...
 

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Personally I think Shaqiri leaves regardless, but yes, if Werner (or any forward) arrives the I think Origi will be off too providing he can find an appropriate club.
Given the way they've been used this season, we can likely improve the overall strength of the squad by replacing 3 little used players in Shaq, Origi and Lallana with 2 new attacking players. Examples of those two players might be Werner and Phil (don't shout).
 

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Given the way they've been used this season, we can likely improve the overall strength of the squad by replacing 3 little used players in Shaq, Origi and Lallana with 2 new attacking players. Examples of those two players might be Werner and Phil (don't shout).
I think we've already replaced one of them with Minamino, who should be up to speed for the start of next season.
 

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Who is Rashica that the article on the main site is linking is with?
I would be stunned if we are seriously in for Rashica. There will be absolutely no shortage of suitors if Werder Bremen is serious about selling. I think they were telling clubs in January it would take 30M but I am reading conflicting reports he might have a release clause of 38M.
 

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Given the way they've been used this season, we can likely improve the overall strength of the squad by replacing 3 little used players in Shaq, Origi and Lallana with 2 new attacking players. Examples of those two players might be Werner and Phil (don't shout).
Think Minamino can replace Shaq and Werner can replace Origi, plus we'll get more minutes from Jones and Elliott next season too.

Scary for the rest of the league to think we are going to improve the depth of a currently undefeated squad:cool:
 
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Think Minamino can replace Shaq and Werner can replace Origi, plus we'll get more minutes from Jones and Elliott next season too.

Scary for the rest of the league to think we are going to improve the depth of a currently undefeated squad:cool:
That's seems the most likely , but it would be a shame to lose Origi. He is a different type of player from Salah and Mane, so it is a different set of problems when he comes on.
I have not watched Werner play, is he like salah and mo (lightning fast, strong and great feet) or more physical and thundering like Origi ?
 

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That's seems the most likely , but it would be a shame to lose Origi. He is a different type of player from Salah and Mane, so it is a different set of problems when he comes on.
I have not watched Werner play, is he like salah and mo (lightning fast, strong and great feet) or more physical and thundering like Origi ?
Origi does present different problems. Mostly though “where’s he gone?” and “what’s he doing?” Absolute legend after the massive goals he has scored and every inch the big game player but too often awol on the pitch in ordinary games.
 

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If we can get £25m for Origi and pay £50m for Werner, then that is looking a really sound bit of business.
 

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If we can get £25m for Origi and pay £50m for Werner, then that is looking a really sound bit of business.
Only if he is;

1; A much better fit for our needs and tactics than Origi (seen plenty on both sides of fence). Or;
2; Much better quality than Origi (again seen enough to give a tinge of doubt). Or;
3; Both.

For what its worth I'd be disappointed if that's all we get for Origi I'd be looking at £35 million plus in this market. I'm also only expecting one or two incoming. With the accounts the way they are and needs on the pitch almost all covered I would only be bringing in the very best player available to us. If that is Werner and he is available at a discount then that's fantastic! Brilliant. But I don't think I've seen anyone say he should be our number one best target if we could sign any semi available player on the planet. He seems to get linked because of the clause. If we wouldn't sign him at "full price", say £70/80 million(?) we shouldn't sign him on a discounted price just because he is cheap.
 

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Only if he is;

1; A much better fit for our needs and tactics than Origi (seen plenty on both sides of fence). Or;
2; Much better quality than Origi (again seen enough to give a tinge of doubt). Or;
3; Both.

For what its worth I'd be disappointed if that's all we get for Origi I'd be looking at £35 million plus in this market. I'm also only expecting one or two incoming. With the accounts the way they are and needs on the pitch almost all covered I would only be bringing in the very best player available to us. If that is Werner and he is available at a discount then that's fantastic! Brilliant. But I don't think I've seen anyone say he should be our number one best target if we could sign any semi available player on the planet. He seems to get linked because of the clause. If we wouldn't sign him at "full price", say £70/80 million(?) we shouldn't sign him on a discounted price just because he is cheap.
I think £25 feels about right. Let’s face it - we constantly exaggerate and get carried away with the fees we expect to rake in. We’re a willing seller in the transaction so can’t expect to drive the price up.

Mind you, Laptop Mike is a ninja, so who knows.

On Werner, for me it’s that he is upfront that he knows he will be coming in a cover and will have to earn his chances.
 

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I think £25 feels about right. Let’s face it - we constantly exaggerate and get carried away with the fees we expect to rake in. We’re a willing seller in the transaction so can’t expect to drive the price up.

Mind you, Laptop Mike is a ninja, so who knows.

On Werner, for me it’s that he is upfront that he knows he will be coming in a cover and will have to earn his chances.
Edwards hasn't been disappointing on sales, if anything he has been selling at overpriced rates.

I think there are conflicting reports on if that's what he is willing to accept.
 

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I'd be happy with Sancho and a versatile player who could play a few positions like LB, CB and DM (Bensebaini?). Jones gets Lallana's minutes and Elliot is given more game time if Shaqiri leaves. Hopefully Minamino gets up to speed in the summer as well.
 

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I think £25 feels about right. Let’s face it - we constantly exaggerate and get carried away with the fees we expect to rake in. We’re a willing seller in the transaction so can’t expect to drive the price up.

Mind you, Laptop Mike is a ninja, so who knows.

On Werner, for me it’s that he is upfront that he knows he will be coming in a cover and will have to earn his chances.
Sure, we might exaggerate and get carried away but £25?

;)
 

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I think £25 feels about right. Let’s face it - we constantly exaggerate and get carried away with the fees we expect to rake in. We’re a willing seller in the transaction so can’t expect to drive the price up.

Mind you, Laptop Mike is a ninja, so who knows.

On Werner, for me it’s that he is upfront that he knows he will be coming in a cover and will have to earn his chances.
Perhaps Edwards could install Origi onto City's transfer database along with some suitable statistics. A price of £50m should cover the fee, I think.
 

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That's seems the most likely , but it would be a shame to lose Origi. He is a different type of player from Salah and Mane, so it is a different set of problems when he comes on.
I have not watched Werner play, is he like salah and mo (lightning fast, strong and great feet) or more physical and thundering like Origi ?
From what I have seen of Werner he is a bit of a combination of all three.

He certainly has the pace of Mo and Mane and his movement off the ball is intelligent and his finishing is excellent. Think of a bit more of a polished version of Origi. Not quite as big and strong as Origi but still strong enough to win the one on one duel when he needs to. For a player who can rotate across the front 3 or come on with 20-30 minutes left in the game against tired defenders he could be very damaging.

I think he gives us more in that role than Origi can.

I say all that but I do love big Div, scored some massive goals for us and won't be upset if he stays at the club.
 

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From the Beeb:
The sporting director of RB Leipzig says the club have not received an approach for 23-year-old Germany striker Timo Werner, amid interest from Liverpool, Chelsea and Manchester United. (Mirror)

Meanwhile, Dortmund could ask for as much as 140 million euros (£121m) for England forward Jadon Sancho, 19. (Bild - in German)
 

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How good is this Birmingham kid Bellingham that Dortmund are sniffing around? It feels to me like they're doing their usual thing of selling at a premium and looking to get in a cheaper replacement who turns out to be amazing in a year or two's time.

Is there an argument to be made that the wiser thing than spending £120m on Sancho might be paying a quarter or less of that for the kid they want to replace him with?

Edit: actually, looks like he is more of a central player, was sure that I'd read he was a winger, never mind. He does look good though. And, tbf, we are likely to be looking for a more central player as well given Milner's age, Lallana leaving and Naby's continued injury issues.
 
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How good is this Birmingham kid Bellingham that Dortmund are sniffing around? It feels to me like they're doing their usual thing of selling at a premium and looking to get in a cheaper replacement who turns out to be amazing in a year or two's time.

Is there an argument to be made that the wiser thing than spending £120m on Sancho might be paying a quarter or less of that for the kid they want to replace him with?
Thing is, we could but chances are he won't get much playing time with us whereas with Dortmund the chance of playing time is much higher. Having moved there probably helped Sancho get his breakthrough much much sooner than had he stayed with City or come to us or another top 6 club. The kid will probably play enough Bundesliga and European games to really enhance his development while with us he'd probably just be a domestic cup player in weakened teams which is really no comparison in quality. That's pretty much where we are as a club though, which is no bad thing.

That said, I have seen rumours that we are in for him as well. I just think he'd be silly not to choose Dortmund as they just seem tailor made, either by accident or design, for a bright young talent to play week in week out in a team that is of a sufficiently high quality in and of itself to be able to also benefit from the players around him.
 

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Thing is, we could but chances are he won't get much playing time with us whereas with Dortmund the chance of playing time is much higher. Having moved there probably helped Sancho get his breakthrough much much sooner than had he stayed with City or come to us or another top 6 club. The kid will probably play enough Bundesliga and European games to really enhance his development while with us he'd probably just be a domestic cup player in weakened teams which is really no comparison in quality. That's pretty much where we are as a club though, which is no bad thing.

That said, I have seen rumours that we are in for him as well. I just think he'd be silly not to choose Dortmund as they just seem tailor made, either by accident or design, for a bright young talent to play week in week out in a team that is of a sufficiently high quality in and of itself to be able to also benefit from the players around him.
I'd probably agree about being right for his development - although given that he doesn't turn 17 until June I'm not sure he'd be nailed on for immediate first-team action at Dortmund either. Also just seen that we have been linked, which is interesting.

My first thought reading this piece on him yesterday was 'he's a Klopp player':


How mature and well-balanced does he sound? At 16? If we truly will be in the mix for his signature this summer I really hope the example set by the likes of Trent and even Elliott who has received first-team appearances at the same age as Bellingham, would convince him to go for us.