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I think one thing that will happen is the longer this goes on the more some clubs are going to get into real difficulty financially. After this clubs may become more careful about how they operate. A lot of them will be in or close to being in administration when this blows over unless they've had support some way.
 

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Even prem teams though because you'd imagine there is tricky waters ahead re the tv contracts they have signed up to. I know the teams are paid at the end of the season but they spent in the knowledge that there's that crazy guaranteed sum coming , but is it guaranteed now?
Villa for example have spent 143m according to transfermarkt with little in from departures.
 

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In Germany the top 4 teams are supposedly giving up TV money to pay for the rest of the teams to keep afloat.

Barcelona players refuse a 70% pay cut as the clubs feeling the financial strain.
 

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Barcelona have every chance of slipping back a little if they don't watch it. They are at the tail end of Messi's career and are over-extended financially.

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I just read the article and I didn't see a 70% cut mentioned. I'd be interested to know where that sort of number comes from. Mind you, the players are divided over whatever the proposed cut is. Some will. Some won't. Others are waiting on the Spanish football authorities before they decide what to do.
 

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Barcelona have every chance of slipping back a little if they don't watch it. They are at the tail end of Messi's career and are over-extended financially.
Agree, they have been bouncing from one desperate deal to the next since Neymar left. Dembele, Coutinho and even Greizeman hasnt been a runaway success.

350+ million in fees on those 3 alone
 

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Agree, they have been bouncing from one desperate deal to the next since Neymar left. Dembele, Coutinho and even Greizeman hasnt been a runaway success.

350+ million in fees on those 3 alone
And by next season it is quite likely the have sold one, have one on loan that they cant sell and the other still out injured. They are then led by the same 30 somethings that led them to glory 6 years ago
 

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They would be better off spending that 350m euros on Edwards.
No way would they(or Madrid) stoop to a level where they have to look for value in the market.

We are a well run club so looking for value options like Matip or Shaqiri to fill squad roles and promising youngsters for the next wave to then facilitate the bigger outlay on megastar players like Virg and Alisson is par for the course as it is at most well run clubs. There is an arrogance about the two Spanish clubs though that they are above all that and can just spend without consideration for the consequences. Probably put United in that group too although they seem to be realizing you cant keep buying success forever.
 
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@Kopstar what are your thoughts on Article 17 of FIFA's transfer regulations?

This is a little used (understatement) provision that allows players to unilaterally terminate their contract without cause after 3 years. The player is essentially free to conduct himself as a free agent, but the club that signs would still have to pay compensation to the club he left. There are stories circulating that Barca are investigating the possibility of using this to get Neymar out of PSG. They know they'll still have to pay a big fee, but it forces PSG's hands and takes away their power to say no. The issue, as Ive seen it explained, is there is so little precedent, especially for a player of Neymar's caliber that it is anyone's guess who much the compensation would be. Barca are widely reported to already have to generate 60 million euro in sales this summer just to avoid FFP penalties and took on debt to purchase Griezmann last year, and so are in no position to be forced to pay the 150 million it still might cost them. The precedent that does exist for clubs no paying the compensation is a world ban for the player and a possible 2 year transfer suspension for the club.

If Neymar was 24 I might understand exploring this, but he's a 30 year old who has not had an injury free season since about 2014.
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I have never heard of this article 17 and as I am as bored as everyone else, I looked it up

The title is "Consequences of terminating a contract without just cause"

So while you are right in the sense anyone can terminate a contract, you cant do so without consequences.... and 17 seems to lay out all of the sanctions.

In your example Nemar would pick up a hefty suspension and so would braca as well as fines as well as having to pay compensation for the loss of an asset and probably aggravated damages as well

So not really a runner

I am hoping man utd spunk 150m on him in the summer
 

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Hi

I have never heard of this article 17 and as I am as bored as everyone else, I looked it up

The title is "Consequences of terminating a contract without just cause"

So while you are right in the sense anyone can terminate a contract, you cant do so without consequences.... and 17 seems to lay out all of the sanctions.

In your example Nemar would pick up a hefty suspension and so would braca as well as fines as well as having to pay compensation for the loss of an asset and probably aggravated damages as well

So not really a runner
I said cause, not consequence. And the sanctions are only relevant if somehow the club who signs the players is then unable to pay the tribunal fee.
 

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Some snippets from the BBC rumours page:

Liverpool are prepared to sell Swiss winger Xherdan Shaqiri, with Sevilla interested in the 28-year-old. (Talksport)

Jurgen Klopp's team are the favourites to sign striker Timo Werner from RB Leipzig - and the German, 24, would have his preference of shirt number at the Merseyside club. (Sunday Express)

Everton manager Carlo Ancelotti says he and Liverpool boss Jurgen Klopp thought it was "criminal" that Liverpool's Champions League tie with Atletico Madrid was played during the coronavirus outbreak. (Corriere dello Sport via Evening Standard)
 

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In Germany the top 4 teams are supposedly giving up TV money to pay for the rest of the teams to keep afloat.

Barcelona players refuse a 70% pay cut as the clubs feeling the financial strain.
 

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You know even with Jack Grealish recent curfew self isolation rule breaking, i would still buy him ,especially if this puts off united or other clubs from signing him. He is a dumb kid , but a really good footballer who would fit our style. Plus add it with Jurgen's guidance, he could become another class of player altogether.
 

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You know even with Jack Grealish recent curfew self isolation rule breaking, i would still buy him ,especially if this puts off united or other clubs from signing him. He is a dumb kid , but a really good footballer who would fit our style. Plus add it with Jurgen's guidance, he could become another class of player altogether.
I think the bolded may be enough for Jurgen to decide against signing him.

I also wonder if the club will decide against signings this summer except those required as an absolute necessity. If the clubs earnings have taken a massive hit, i would expect spending on those here to be prioritised over incoming players.
 

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I also wonder if the club will decide against signings this summer except those required as an absolute necessity. If the clubs earnings have taken a massive hit, i would expect spending on those here to be prioritised over incoming players.
Have to think there will be a level of caution for all clubs in the next transfer window, not just in fees but in wages too.

We may look to sell a few first and build a kitty to work with before lashing out on anyone, potentially even in the following window(s).

We where all talking about generating 100 mil in sales this summer, which was realistic at the time. I'd think that figure will be closer to half of that given recent events. The upshot is that we could sell a lot of loanees and fringe players and it won't affect the depth of talent we have currently. I would also think quite a few players who were thinking about moving may be more inclined to hang around. I doubt the big wage offers will be on the table this summer. Might be safer and easier to re-sign and stay put.
 

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Went a bed last night about 10.30, flicked on talksport and they said they had some embargoed Lfc news at midnight. I fell asleep. Anyone know what it was??