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The Unreliable Rumours Thread

Richard88

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Give them matip and we get sessegnon +cash
Good idea in theory, but:

1. Why would Matip want to join a club looking likely to be in the Championship next season?

2. Going with only 3 CB's (i.e. Van Dijk, Gomez, Lovren) for the second half of the season would be incredibly risky.

3. Fulham won't sell their best attacking player midseason. Though it's likely that they'd be willing to sell him at the end of the season (especially if they are relegated).
 

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Good idea in theory, but:

1. Why would Matip want to join a club looking likely to be in the Championship next season?

2. Going with only 3 CB's (i.e. Van Dijk, Gomez, Lovren) for the second half of the season would be incredibly risky.

3. Fulham won't sell their best attacking player midseason. Though it's likely that they'd be willing to sell him at the end of the season (especially if they are relegated).
I know its a no go i was just being flippant but in the summer i reckon we will bid for De Ligt and get rid of him
 

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I know its a no go i was just being flippant but in the summer i reckon we will bid for De Ligt and get rid of him
Should Matip be allowed to leave it'll be tough to sign another CB who is better than him (or even equal in quality) given that few CB's would realistically expect to get more playing time than Matip has. That's due to the form of Gomez and Van Dijk as the clear first choice partnership, and the presence of Lovren who for all his flaws has still lead his teams to CL and World Cup finals recently.
 
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This was on yesterday's BBC rumours page. Any thoughts from our German reds?

Liverpool are set to sign Hoffenheim's Germany midfielder Kerem Demirbay, 25, in the January transfer window. (Sunday Express)

This was there too.
But Liverpool's hopes of signing £60m-rated Ajax defender Matthijs de Ligt look to be over, with the 19-year-old Netherlands international now bound for Barcelona. (Sunday Mirror)
 

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From today's BBC rumours page ...
US midfielder Christian Pulisic, 20, will leave Borussia Dortmund for the Premier League, but the Chelsea and Liverpool target will come in the summer rather than January. (Mirror)
Liverpool are targeting current Bundesliga top goal scorer Luka Jovic - but they face competition from Barcelona and Bayern Munich for the 20-year-old Frankfurt and Serbia striker. (Bild - in German)
Liverpool manager Jurgen Klopp has dismissed speculation that Brazilian defensive midfielder Fabinho, 25, will be leaving the club. (Liverpool Echo)
 

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We should sign James Forrest from Celtic in the window he is coming onto a game and into phenomenal form would be a good addition... The new Dalglish!
 

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BBC Rumours page:

Paris St-Germain midfielder Adrien Rabiot, 23, has told Barcelona he will sign for the club in the summer. (Mundo Deportivo - in Spanish)

French club Nice want to sign Liverpool's Belgium goalkeeper Simon Mignolet in January but the 30-year-old is set to remain at Anfield for the rest of the season. (Liverpool Echo)
 

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I don't think it means all that much really, only that we won't sell a player for less than 100 million euros to them before 2020. If they were going for Mane or Firmino you'd expect they'd pay at least that anyway.

If they bid 150 million for Mane we'd probably accept it, but there'd be no way we'd accept 50 million.
 

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I doubt "try" is actually part of the clause.
Of course but I only had the phrasing of the tweet to go by.

Whether "attempt" is what is meant in the sense that it needs to be paid simply for the right to contact/negotiate with the player or whether it's only payable as a premium in the event of actual transfer would be interesting to know.
 

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Of course but I only had the phrasing of the tweet to go by.

Whether "attempt" is what is meant in the sense that it needs to be paid simply for the right to contact/negotiate with the player or whether it's only payable as a premium in the event of actual transfer would be interesting to know.
Are you not overthinking this? Regardless of the language used in the tweet to paraphrase, isn't it reasonable to assume that it referencing a premium that will that will be applied to any sale price.
 

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Are you not overthinking this? Regardless of the language used in the tweet to paraphrase, isn't it reasonable to assume that it referencing a premium that will that will be applied to any sale price.
Well we don't know how it applies but if all of it does simply get added to any agreed transfer fee it's inevitable that part of any transfer fee otherwise payable will be partly absorbed by the premium. As a premium just for the right to contact our players it certainly sounds very high although at least it wouldn't suffer the same erosion. Maybe it's a bit of both?
 

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I like the Rice on a free (compensation) link.
Me also, he's a quality player. Some very very good English players knocking around in the 18-22 bracket who I think Klopp would turn into top class.
 

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Every time I hear of a young player who's in a contract wrangle with his club getting linked with Liverpool, I immediately think that it's his agent using them as leverage to get his client a better contract. That coupled with The Express being the source, well... Still, I'd love it if Liverpool snapped him up on a free. He's an excellent passer of the ball, very committed player, I think he could actually replace Matip rather than be an option at DM.

As for this +100 million euros clause in Coutinho's contract, I'm fine with Mignolet leaving for Barca for 105 million euros.
 

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Every time I hear of a young player who's in a contract wrangle with his club getting linked with Liverpool, I immediately think that it's his agent using them as leverage to get his client a better contract. That coupled with The Express being the source, well... Still, I'd love it if Liverpool snapped him up on a free. He's an excellent passer of the ball, very committed player, I think he could actually replace Matip rather than be an option at DM.

As for this +100 million euros clause in Coutinho's contract, I'm fine with Mignolet leaving for Barca for 105 million euros.
He could be our own Nathan Ake!
 

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Well we don't know how it applies but if all of it does simply get added to any agreed transfer fee it's inevitable that part of any transfer fee otherwise payable will be partly absorbed by the premium. As a premium just for the right to contact our players it certainly sounds very high although at least it wouldn't suffer the same erosion. Maybe it's a bit of both?
Surely it’s a case of we agree a fee for the player, and then, as per this clause, you pay £100m on top of that.

So if we agree that Mane is worth €130m in today’s market, it then becomes €230m with the clause applied.

As such, this is just an elaborate, legal way of saying ‘fuck right off’.

That’s my take.
 

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Surely it’s a case of we agree a fee for the player, and then, as per this clause, you pay £100m on top of that.

So if we agree that Mane is worth €130m in today’s market, it then becomes €230m with the clause applied.

As such, this is just an elaborate, legal way of saying ‘fuck right off’.

That’s my take.
Does this mean that Markovic is now officially a £100m £80m player?
 

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Surely it’s a case of we agree a fee for the player, and then, as per this clause, you pay £100m on top of that.

So if we agree that Mane is worth €130m in today’s market, it then becomes €230m with the clause applied.

As such, this is just an elaborate, legal way of saying ‘fuck right off’.

That’s my take.
I doubt it's put that way but we won't know for sure unless we see the agreement.

I expect it's part of the terms of Coutinho's transfer. A contingency payment payable if Barcelona enter into (before the end of 2020) an agreement to purchase a Liverpool player. So not payable on top of the transfer fee for that further player but payable under the conditions attached to the Coutinho transfer.