The Unreliable Rumours Thread

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RMC reporting we are interested in Aouar (also Chelsea).

I'd be absolutely thrilled with this boy at Liverpool. Can play 6 (regista), 8, 10, LW, LM... amazing vision and creativity, really good passer and everything he does is very simple and clean. He looks a little bit like Coutinho, but less of a dribbler and finisher and more creative and better defending.

People might think I'm crazy, but I rate him over Fékir easily. Much better fit.
 

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From the Guardian's rumours page:
Liverpool are said to be hoping that Nabil Fekir does not hold a grudge over his aborted transfer to Anfield last summer. Because not only is Jürgen Klopp rumoured to be keen on reviving that move, but the German has also developed a liking for Fekir’s 20-year-old Lyon teammate Houssem Aouar. A skilful and dynamic forward who is adept both at winning the ball and at sticking it in the net or on a plate for others, Aouar is right up Klopp’s street – but he’s also aroused the interest of Chelsea and Barcelona, so Liverpool could do with someone putting in a good word for them.
 
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From the Guardian's rumours page:
Liverpool are said to be hoping that Nabil Fekir does not hold a grudge over his aborted transfer to Anfield last summer. Because not only is Jürgen Klopp rumoured to be keen on reviving that move, but the German has also developed a liking for Fekir’s 20-year-old Lyon teammate Houssem Aouar. A skilful and dynamic forward who is adept both at winning the ball and at sticking it in the net or on a plate for others, Aouar is right up Klopp’s street – but he’s also aroused the interest of Chelsea and Barcelona, so Liverpool could do with someone putting in a good word for them.

I would not be at all surprised if we make a move for Aouar but for me it makes no sense whatsoever for us to go back in for Fekir. It just ain’t going to happen.
 

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It’s difficult to deal with Aulas at the best of times, never mind after an aborted move for Fekir.

Aouar is a very good player, versatile too, and would give us some much needed creativity in that final third. If he is to come, ideally we get the deal sewn up and bring him in at the start of January, rather than getting into a protracted wrangle with a wily Aulas. (See what I did there!)
 

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It’s difficult to deal with Aulas at the best of times, never mind after an aborted move for Fekir.

Aouar is a very good player, versatile too, and would give us some much needed creativity in that final third. If he is to come, ideally we get the deal sewn up and bring him in at the start of January, rather than getting into a protracted wrangle with a wily Aulas. (See what I did there!)
I'd also say that our own Edwards is becoming a thorn in many teams sides with his approach to Liverpool's transfer dealings of late - no nonsense for the win.
 

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I'd absolutely be okay with a low key signing like this to replace Matip given Matip's level of performance over the last 15 months and his knack of getting injured.

I know nothing of the player in question here but a move like this wouldn't surprise me, certainly less so than a move for a 'big name' centre back.


On the topic of injuries this lad has had a couple of nasty looking injuries:

17/18 Thigh muscle rupture May 21, 2017- Dec 31, 2017 224 days 22 matches

12/13 Ruptured knee ligament Nov 23, 2012 - Apr 1, 2013 129 days 13 matches

He does seem to be susceptible to muscular injuries but he’s not as prone to injury as Matip has been for us.
 

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It’s difficult to deal with Aulas at the best of times, never mind after an aborted move for Fekir.

Aouar is a very good player, versatile too, and would give us some much needed creativity in that final third. If he is to come, ideally we get the deal sewn up and bring him in at the start of January, rather than getting into a protracted wrangle with a wily Aulas. (See what I did there!)
Aulas can’t hold anything against Liverpool as they never said why they pulled out the deal so didn’t stop Lyon being able to sell to another team.
Then there’s Aulas and his behaviour he was almost desperate to sell so I wouldn’t put him down as a hard negotiator especially when dealing with Edwards.
 

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I'd absolutely be okay with a low key signing like this to replace Matip given Matip's level of performance over the last 15 months and his knack of getting injured.

I know nothing of the player in question here but a move like this wouldn't surprise me, certainly less so than a move for a 'big name' centre back.
I would say it's more likely than any big name signing this winter, I personally can't see us making a big move this january, we may revisit Fekir but that's probably it.
 

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Do we think Dembele would go to PSG to join up with Mbappe, as part ex against Neymar to Barcelona? Or would Dembele be available to other teams? And if available, would we, or should we, go in for him?
 
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Do we think Dembele would go to PSG to join up with Mbappe, as part ex against Neymar to Barcelona? Or would Dembele be available to other teams? And if available, would we, or should we, go in for him?

This is just speculation at this stage I would imagine.


To add to that general speculation there are more specific questions like:

- would Neymar go back to Barca?
- would Dembele want to be tied to an exchange deal?
- would Barca let him leave early unless it was to facilitate such a deal (or similar)
- why when Dembele has played such a useful role recently would Barca let him go right now?


As to whether we should go for him then (apart from is there any truth in this rumour?) for me it comes down to two things:

- how much?
- attitude (we really don’t need a Balotelli or Pogba type situation landing at Melwood, no matter how talented the kid is!)
 

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This is just speculation at this stage I would imagine.
There have been a lot of stories about his difficulties, but there has always been a sense that the powers that be, even if not he manager himself, were trying to smooth everything over and protect him. It is notable then that news of the last indiscretion (simply not showing up for training because he was ill and not telling anyone) came directly from the club. It was a clear change in attitude, and while it may simply be an attempt to give him a public kick up the arse, it could also be them indicating that they are done.

As for why Valverde has seen less on board with the player than his superiors are, it's one of those strange ones, maybe kind of like Babel was for us. He has scored some nice goals, he superficially appears to be contributing, and you get a sense that there is a lot more to come. Despite this, there is always a pretty strong sense that they are a better side when someone else is on the pitch instead of him. That is reflected in the manager's reluctant use of him, and probably contributing to the situation not getting better.
 
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There have been a lot of stories about his difficulties, but there has always been a sense that the powers that be, even if not he manager himself, were trying to smooth everything over and protect him. It is notable then that news of the last indiscretion (simply not showing up for training because he was ill and not telling anyone) came directly from the club. It was a clear change in attitude, and while it may simply be an attempt to give him a public kick up the arse, it could also be them indicating that they are done.

As for why Valverde has seen less on board with the player than his superiors are, it's one of those strange ones, maybe kind of like Babel was for us. He has scored some nice goals, he superficially appears to be contributing, and you get a sense that there is a lot more to come. Despite this, there is always a pretty strong sense that they are a better side when someone else is on the pitch instead of him. That is reflected in the manager's reluctant use of him, and probably contributing to the situation not getting better.

In which case I think Klopp would be very reluctant to bring him to Anfield no matter how talented he is.
 

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What's everyone's opinion of Klopp's supposed interest in Sporting Gijon goalkeeper Dani Martin? The 20 year-old is already capped at international level for Spain's U21's squad and has impressed when playing in the cup, and league matches for the first team.
 

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What's everyone's opinion of Klopp's supposed interest in Sporting Gijon goalkeeper Dani Martin? The 20 year-old is already capped at international level for Spain's U21's squad and has impressed when playing in the cup, and league matches for the first team.
With Brexit looming, maybe our next goalie buy needs to be English?
 

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I recently read a twitter comment, cant rember by whom but it was a respectable journalist about us going big next summer for a CF. (Additionally to my optimistic approach for Suarez) i would love Insigne. I just think he is tailored made for us. Skillul, a handful, technically good and can play various positions. I do not think it would be an unrealistic purchase altho many of us don't like a signing from Italy
 

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I recently read a twitter comment, cant rember by whom but it was a respectable journalist about us going big next summer for a CF. (Additionally to my optimistic approach for Suarez) i would love Insigne. I just think he is tailored made for us. Skillul, a handful, technically good and can play various positions. I do not think it would be an unrealistic purchase altho many of us don't like a signing from Italy
It was Oliver Bond
 

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I recently read a twitter comment, cant rember by whom but it was a respectable journalist about us going big next summer for a CF. (Additionally to my optimistic approach for Suarez) i would love Insigne. I just think he is tailored made for us. Skillul, a handful, technically good and can play various positions. I do not think it would be an unrealistic purchase altho many of us don't like a signing from Italy

Oliver Bond wasn't it? You'd imagine it would be Werner all the way .
 

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What's everyone's opinion of Klopp's supposed interest in Sporting Gijon goalkeeper Dani Martin? The 20 year-old is already capped at international level for Spain's U21's squad and has impressed when playing in the cup, and league matches for the first team.
Being 20 and winning a cap for the u21 Spanish national side isn't some big thing as such . if he was 17 then yeah that would be impressive. As him personally then I know nothing about him so can't comment there
 

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Oliver Bond wasn't it? You'd imagine it would be Werner all the way .
By next summer Werner will be 23 and have only 12 months remaining on his contract, so it makes all the sense in the world to go after him. Werner would give the team a similar 1-2 punch as City enjoy with Aguero and Gabriel Jesus, and he'd be an ideal replacement for Sturridge should he leave.

German clubs aren't shy about letting players run out their contracts though instead of cashing in beforehand (eg. Lewandowski at Dortmund, or Matip at Schalke).
 

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By next summer Werner will be 23 and have only 12 months remaining on his contract, so it makes all the sense in the world to go after him. Werner would give the team a similar 1-2 punch as City enjoy with Aguero and Gabriel Jesus, and he'd be an ideal replacement for Sturridge should he leave.

German clubs aren't shy about letting players run out their contracts though instead of cashing in beforehand (eg. Lewandowski at Dortmund, or Matip at Schalke).
Not sure that the clubs have much say in that.
 

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I recently read a twitter comment, cant rember by whom but it was a respectable journalist about us going big next summer for a CF. (Additionally to my optimistic approach for Suarez) i would love Insigne. I just think he is tailored made for us. Skillul, a handful, technically good and can play various positions. I do not think it would be an unrealistic purchase altho many of us don't like a signing from Italy
Oliver bond is a complete chancer who built a twitter/web-site traffic generator to sell for profit based on lies.
 

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By next summer Werner will be 23 and have only 12 months remaining on his contract, so it makes all the sense in the world to go after him. Werner would give the team a similar 1-2 punch as City enjoy with Aguero and Gabriel Jesus, and he'd be an ideal replacement for Sturridge should he leave.

German clubs aren't shy about letting players run out their contracts though instead of cashing in beforehand (eg. Lewandowski at Dortmund, or Matip at Schalke).
We love a 23 year old with a year left on his contract.