Things that other fans do that I don’t understand

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I've got a username on RAWK but rarely go on there. A thing that sticks in my mind was last season when the Irish comedian lad had the Salah, Mane, Coutinho song on YouTube. It was being discussed (some thought it was good others not so) one Rawkite said if he heard anybody singing it on the Kop he would hit them. He was told in the main to wind his neck in, but others were supporting him.
Yeah that sounds about par for the RAWK course. An angry insular bunch who think being an LFC fan is more like being a follower of an obscure religion rather than supporting a football team. It’s more fun on here.
 

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Yeah that sounds about par for the RAWK course. An angry insular bunch who think being an LFC fan is more like being a follower of an obscure religion rather than supporting a football team. It’s more fun on here.
You should visit some of the more obscure ones. Several years ago, footage emerged at an SoS party of a bloke on stage singing Munich songs - there was uproar about it and the union issued one of the most random apologies I've ever read where they claimed this singer waited until all of the organizers were in a backroom or something, and then he rushed on stage and performed without their knowledge or permission. One of the other forums (not RAWK) went absolutely ballistic about it - how dare anyone question the union, fucking wools and ooters know nothing, and some of the stuff I had the displeasure of reading regarding their attitude of fans outside the borough utterly horrified me. Some of that lot would have made Jamie Vardy and John Terry seemed like socialists.
 

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This thread is killing me.

I just want to go to a match someday

MLS and it’s gawdy commercialism drives me to the point I won’t watch/attend even free games.

Seattle:

 

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Yeah, everybody who goes the game regularly hates/laughs at this, not just the people who are intolerant of 'ooters'.

That's not even a Liverpool thing either, any side with a fanatical support would be the same.
Question for you as a regular.


I’m obviously not from Liverpool. Next time I come to anfield i assume I’ll be with my two kids and missus ( she might not attend the game, but I digress).

What’s appropriate for taking a photographic memento?

I don’t mean in the warm up either, during the game, with it going on in the background, a player they/I like.....in full flow.

Something they can remember it by. Inspire them. Not a picture of an empty pitch with a sprinkler.

I genuinely ask this not to be mischevious, I genuinely don’t get the extent of the faux pas, becuase if illok and illok junior were to come to the ‘g’ and take a few selfies during the Boxing Day test, I honestly, hand on my heart, couldn’t be less offended. Wouldn’t even register.

I love English football and the English dynamic when it comes to supporting a club..... I can see why a half and half scarf is an offence, I understand the frustration( but acceptance) of sitting with fans that don’t know the words to YNWA, but I honestly struggle with the concept of being so offended by a couple of photos of a personal moment.

Selfies Ad infinitum I get. But a quick keepsake?

I ask this with genuine respect.
 

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Question for you as a regular.


I’m obviously not from Liverpool. Next time I come to anfield i assume I’ll be with my two kids and missus ( she might not attend the game, but I digress).

What’s appropriate for taking a photographic memento?

I don’t mean in the warm up either, during the game, with it going on in the background, a player they/I like.....in full flow.

Something they can remember it by. Inspire them. Not a picture of an empty pitch with a sprinkler.

I genuinely ask this not to be mischevious, I genuinely don’t get the extent of the faux pas, becuase if illok and illok junior were to come to the ‘g’ and take a few selfies during the Boxing Day test, I honestly, hand on my heart, couldn’t be less offended. Wouldn’t even register.

I love English football and the English dynamic when it comes to supporting a club..... I can see why a half and half scarf is an offence, I understand the frustration( but acceptance) of sitting with fans that don’t know the words to YNWA, but I honestly struggle with the concept of being so offended by a couple of photos of a personal moment.

Selfies Ad infinitum I get. But a quick keepsake?

I ask this with genuine respect.
I think that's a fair point. Take this post (below), for example, RodM was a regular match goer and obviously liked to take a snap or two at the game. This was obviously a particularly important moment but for many overseas fans the same is true of less significant games because for them it might be the only one they ever get to witness at Anfield.

RodM's photo is a great piece of nostalgia, why shouldn't fans be able to create their own these days? Why should it be derided or frowned upon?

I did used to do odd bits of photography at games but it was usually during lulls in the action. In fact, this was one of mine. It isn't the best quality as the photo it was scanned from is rather faded but can you gusess what goal this was?
 

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I think that's a fair point. Take this post (below), for example, RodM was a regular match goer and obviously liked to take a snap or two at the game. This was obviously a particularly important moment but for many overseas fans the same is true of less significant games because for them it might be the only one they ever get to witness at Anfield.

RodM's photo is a great piece of nostalgia, why shouldn't fans be able to create their own these days? Why should it be derided or frowned upon?
I am a lifelong LFC fan from Egypt for almost two decades now, and watching a Liverpool game at Anfield is a dream for me (be it against United, a UCL final, Hull or even a cup clash with Cheltenham Town). If I ever go there, I would spend some time documenting this special memory, before, during and after the game, during the YNWA rendition, around the ground etc. since it is quite probable that I won't get this chance again.

It may get annoying to some "regulars", but them being "regulars" they probably forgot how special the moment is for overseas fans that pay a small fortune to live such a special memory.
 

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I think that's a fair point. Take this post (below), for example, RodM was a regular match goer and obviously liked to take a snap or two at the game. This was obviously a particularly important moment but for many overseas fans the same is true of less significant games because for them it might be the only one they ever get to witness at Anfield.

RodM's photo is a great piece of nostalgia, why shouldn't fans be able to create their own these days? Why should it be derided or frowned upon?
I think you make a very good point there and it is worth noting that there were many professional press photographers behind the goal (as well as the BBC recording for MoTD) when I took that picture so it wasn't as if I was missing an otherwise unrecorded piece of history.

I suppose the key is still to have respect for one's fellow fan. I don't think I have ever obscured another spectator's view (I am quite tall so I was always checking if I was blocking a shorter fan's view when on terracing) and I would hope that I would never have caused annoyance by interfering with someone else's enjoyment.

It's worth noting that Liverpool itself has changed (and mostly for the better) since I was a regular match-goer. The city itself is a world heritage site and the tourist industry is now a major source of both income and prestige. Part of that is that people will want to visit the city and experience things for themselves. I enjoy visiting friends and family back in Liverpool and I am always made to feel welcome in the city. I hope that any other visitors would be made to feel welcome too.
 

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Question for you as a regular.


I’m obviously not from Liverpool. Next time I come to anfield i assume I’ll be with my two kids and missus ( she might not attend the game, but I digress).

What’s appropriate for taking a photographic memento?

I don’t mean in the warm up either, during the game, with it going on in the background, a player they/I like.....in full flow.

Something they can remember it by. Inspire them. Not a picture of an empty pitch with a sprinkler.

I genuinely ask this not to be mischevious, I genuinely don’t get the extent of the faux pas, becuase if illok and illok junior were to come to the ‘g’ and take a few selfies during the Boxing Day test, I honestly, hand on my heart, couldn’t be less offended. Wouldn’t even register.

I love English football and the English dynamic when it comes to supporting a club..... I can see why a half and half scarf is an offence, I understand the frustration( but acceptance) of sitting with fans that don’t know the words to YNWA, but I honestly struggle with the concept of being so offended by a couple of photos of a personal moment.

Selfies Ad infinitum I get. But a quick keepsake?

I ask this with genuine respect.
A quick photo or two isn't a problem for anyone but the most miserable, the problem lies with people who spend half the game videoing corners, free kicks or anything else remotely close to the goal.

It's easy enough for people on here that don't go the game to call others superfans for moaning about it, but it's annoying as fuck and virtually every regular will say the same thing, it's not just a cluster of superfans who think they're better than everybody else.

I used to go the game with my mate's dad who struggled to walk up the stairs to his seat so he had to grab a hold of each seat as he was climbing the stairs, what do you think his reaction was when there were people taking selfies in the aisle completely oblivious to anybody else around them?

My mate went to a game in Poland not so long back and tried to take a video mid-game, he got a swift "no phones, tourist" from the locals. Put it away and they were happy enough to talk to him and have him there. That's fair enough in my book and I'd not be so easily offended if I got told something similar if I went to a game elsewhere.

Here's a question for you red - you turn up at Anfield, once in a lifetime, YNWA starts playing and you look to the Kop, all the flags, banners and scarves that you've seen on TV over all these years have been replaced by people holding up their phone videoing others singing, what's your reaction? I'd bet you'd be a little disappointed, no?
 
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When fans of clubs pretend they're locals. People from America referring to us as "bin dippers" for example, because they see locals on other forums use the term, and they're desperate to fit in. (Some of our own lot do it as well, mind).
I aprticularly like it when people from Salford, Stoke, Deptford/ Newham and other mutant breeding pools do it.
 

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I've written somewhere in another post of an incident last season, (a CL game maybe Moscow) which made me laugh. On European nights my seat is surrounded by Thomas Cook fans. I have no problem with that. Anyway back to the match in question. I had to the sides and behind me a group of mid twenties lads. When the lad on my right turned up he nodded and smiled an hello. I said to him something along the lines of "it's bouncing tonight". He just smiled at me obviously not understanding a word I said. Fair enough. When he and his mates started talking I couldn't place the language or any sort of regional accent and I'm usually good at at least getting somewhere close. The bit that made me laugh though was their singing. They joined in with all the songs, but sang them in really broad scouse. I assume they'd learned them from t'internet.
 

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Question for you as a regular.

I’m obviously not from Liverpool. Next time I come to anfield i assume I’ll be with my two kids and missus ( she might not attend the game, but I digress).

What’s appropriate for taking a photographic memento?

I don’t mean in the warm up either, during the game, with it going on in the background, a player they/I like.....in full flow.

Something they can remember it by. Inspire them. Not a picture of an empty pitch with a sprinkler.

I genuinely ask this not to be mischevious, I genuinely don’t get the extent of the faux pas, becuase if illok and illok junior were to come to the ‘g’ and take a few selfies during the Boxing Day test, I honestly, hand on my heart, couldn’t be less offended. Wouldn’t even register.

I love English football and the English dynamic when it comes to supporting a club..... I can see why a half and half scarf is an offence, I understand the frustration( but acceptance) of sitting with fans that don’t know the words to YNWA, but I honestly struggle with the concept of being so offended by a couple of photos of a personal moment.

Selfies Ad infinitum I get. But a quick keepsake?

I ask this with genuine respect.
I'd say one or two photos are fine, but enjoy the game in real time not through a lens, surely it removes half the experience to have you hand/eyes glued to an electronic device?

I've seen many many many tourists singing with the best of them so geographic location has zero bearing on the behavior at the match imo. In fact the Kop is full of old farts who piss and moan all game and don't sing fuck all.
 

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Question for you as a regular.


I’m obviously not from Liverpool. Next time I come to anfield i assume I’ll be with my two kids and missus ( she might not attend the game, but I digress).

What’s appropriate for taking a photographic memento?

I don’t mean in the warm up either, during the game, with it going on in the background, a player they/I like.....in full flow.

Something they can remember it by. Inspire them. Not a picture of an empty pitch with a sprinkler.

I genuinely ask this not to be mischevious, I genuinely don’t get the extent of the faux pas, becuase if illok and illok junior were to come to the ‘g’ and take a few selfies during the Boxing Day test, I honestly, hand on my heart, couldn’t be less offended. Wouldn’t even register.

I love English football and the English dynamic when it comes to supporting a club..... I can see why a half and half scarf is an offence, I understand the frustration( but acceptance) of sitting with fans that don’t know the words to YNWA, but I honestly struggle with the concept of being so offended by a couple of photos of a personal moment.

Selfies Ad infinitum I get. But a quick keepsake?

I ask this with genuine respect.
This is just my personal view, but football is 90 minutes and has few breaks, cricket is a full day event and has enough 'lulls' throughout the day that taking photos and selfies is a way to pass some of the time.

1 or 2 quick photos that are descreet and limit any interuption to others during goal celebrations or during pre/post match I would consider ok.
 

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I'd say one or two photos are fine, but enjoy the game in real time not through a lens, surely it removes half the experience to have you hand/eyes glued to an electronic device?

I've seen many many many tourists singing with the best of them so geographic location has zero bearing on the behavior at the match imo. In fact the Kop is full of old farts who piss and moan all game and don't sing fuck all.
I take it you've seen me watching Australia play lol
 

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And just to expand a bit further - at Anfield you're all cramped in to a small space. You're literally sitting shoulder to shoulder (my seat is actually tighter than that, you have to sit at a bit of an angle) with the people in at either side of you. If people are holding up phones or ipads in your direct line of sight, or even in your peripheral vision, it's annoying. You can say it wouldn't register @redbj but if somebody was blocking your view by filming I'd think you'd change your mind. If the person sitting next to you is constantly swivelling round, knocking you or getting in your personal space whilst trying to film, it's annoying. If people are taking selfies and blocking the stairs or the row whilst you're trying to get to your seat, it's annoying.

It's just basic courtesy not to act like an obnoxious tourist, whether it's at the football or anywhere else. It appears some want a free pass to do so.
 

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I am a lifelong LFC fan from Egypt for almost two decades now, and watching a Liverpool game at Anfield is a dream for me (be it against United, a UCL final, Hull or even a cup clash with Cheltenham Town). If I ever go there, I would spend some time documenting this special memory, before, during and after the game, during the YNWA rendition, around the ground etc. since it is quite probable that I won't get this chance again.

It may get annoying to some "regulars", but them being "regulars" they probably forgot how special the moment is for overseas fans that pay a small fortune to live such a special memory.
100% how else do you makes the memories of a one-day excursion last a lifetime ?

When I go to Anfield I will likely be the guy weeping tears sorrow laying flowers at the memorial and tears of joy before kickoff.

Definitely not in the Kop by myself, that would be if I get a return visit
 

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And just to expand a bit further - at Anfield you're all cramped in to a small space. You're literally sitting shoulder to shoulder (my seat is actually tighter than that, you have to sit at a bit of an angle) with the people in at either side of you. If people are holding up phones or ipads in your direct line of sight, or even in your peripheral vision, it's annoying. You can say it wouldn't register @redbj but if somebody was blocking your view by filming I'd think you'd change your mind. If the person sitting next to you is constantly swivelling round, knocking you or getting in your personal space whilst trying to film, it's annoying. If people are taking selfies and blocking the stairs or the row whilst you're trying to get to your seat, it's annoying.

It's just basic courtesy not to act like an obnoxious tourist, whether it's at the football or anywhere else. It appears some want a free pass to do so.
But what you’re explaining is obnoxious behaviour. The camera/phone isn’t the issue, it’s the human being.

What kept coming up is just ‘selfies’. I.e. if I was to grab my phone out I’d immediately feel like I was crossing an imaginary line.

I can accept all the subsequent situations provided would be shithouse.

I’ve always been a pretty respectful guy, I don’t think I’d ever be in a situation where I stand in front of a disabled guy grinning like the village idiot taking a selfie, nor do I think I’d take a video in front of someone’s view.

The kop situation is an interesting conundrum.

Last time I was out there I did film it, and sang it.......I promised myself next time I wouldn’t sing it 20cms away from my camera microphone.........so yeah, I might be guilty as charged there......
 

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Yes. I phoned in once. Nice guy and 606 was in its day a brilliant programme. The phone in for “Gordon’s plywood bow tie “ is the funniest football anecdote I have ever heard. Worth looking up in Google.
Incidentally, that's a pretty sweet avatar you've got there. It's nice to see someone else appreciates the legend that is Igor.
 

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You should visit some of the more obscure ones. Several years ago, footage emerged at an SoS party of a bloke on stage singing Munich songs - there was uproar about it and the union issued one of the most random apologies I've ever read where they claimed this singer waited until all of the organizers were in a backroom or something, and then he rushed on stage and performed without their knowledge or permission. One of the other forums (not RAWK) went absolutely ballistic about it - how dare anyone question the union, fucking wools and ooters know nothing, and some of the stuff I had the displeasure of reading regarding their attitude of fans outside the borough utterly horrified me. Some of that lot would have made Jamie Vardy and John Terry seemed like socialists.
I seem to remember them spamming this forum with new members to defend the honour of SoS whenever anyone, including myself, said that they had no interest in joining.
 



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Yes. I phoned in once. Nice guy and 606 was in its day a brilliant programme. The phone in for “Gordon’s plywood bow tie “ is the funniest football anecdote I have ever heard. Worth looking up in Google.
Haha, That's brilliant.

Incidentally, that's a pretty sweet avatar you've got there. It's nice to see someone else appreciates the legend that is Igor.
Coincidental as we're up against Fulham this weekend. I well remember sitting in a bar in Gibraltar watching us play them in 2004. It was a funny game where we were 2-0 down at half time. Then got it back to 2-2. We went down to ten men but took the lead. Igor came on in the last few minutes and I had fingers, arms, legs, eyes and everything else crossed that we would see it out. however Igor had other ideas and scored what i remember to be a great goal. Happy days.
 

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Haha, That's brilliant.



Coincidental as we're up against Fulham this weekend. I well remember sitting in a bar in Gibraltar watching us play them in 2004. It was a funny game where we were 2-0 down at half time. Then got it back to 2-2. We went down to ten men but took the lead. Igor came on in the last few minutes and I had fingers, arms, legs, eyes and everything else crossed that we would see it out. however Igor had other ideas and scored what i remember to be a great goal. Happy days.
The best part about it was the look on his face as it went in, sort of half-stunned, half-bemused in a 'did I just do that?' kind of way lol