Timo Werner (CF) RB Leipzig

What will Werner be leaning on?

  • The Wall of Champions, pointing at the newly installed 6

    Votes: 14 15.9%
  • Nabil Fekir's knee

    Votes: 11 12.5%
  • A bog standard table, with a bog standard pen, and a sheet of random paper

    Votes: 8 9.1%
  • The Champions League trophy for some weird reason

    Votes: 3 3.4%
  • Sadio's jockstrap

    Votes: 2 2.3%
  • The railing at Melwood

    Votes: 3 3.4%
  • Ralf Rangnick's animosity

    Votes: 3 3.4%
  • A giant can of Red Bull, cos he's not coming

    Votes: 40 45.5%
  • "Brazilian shit from beaches"

    Votes: 4 4.5%

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Prolix

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Used to be chief football writer for the s*n, so we can confidently ignore everything thing he says.
His bullshit really shouldn't be reproduced on the forum then, imo.
 

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Actually, I think Werner would be ideal for for us property rotating through a front three, keeping everyone fresh. He works hard, has a bit of speed, can play more than one position. We lose one forward and we could suddenly look ordinary.
Werner would be a good signing but I think Origi has that back up front three spot. Still would love a Coutinho type to come in to rotate so there is no drop off in quality but don't see who is out there that is the required level who wouldn't cost a bomb.
 

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Werner would be a good signing but I think Origi has that back up front three spot. Still would love a Coutinho type to come in to rotate so there is no drop off in quality but don't see who is out there that is the required level who wouldn't cost a bomb.
No way has Origi cemented that back up spot....

he's a) not good enough quite simply. Especially when starting a game.

b) trying to cover for three players. We need a top class backup (or two) in case we lose two of the three at any point.
 

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Absolutely DOG, he's not good enough for a team with our ambitions
 

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For the reported £25mil-30mill release clause now in his contract,we would be mad not to make a bid,unless he tells Klopp he wants a first team place.
 

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Absolutely DOG, he's not good enough for a team with our ambitions
Exactly. He'd be great in netting a few slightly more classy goals than many of his teammates, in a side pushing for 4th. That's what being 2nd in the Bundesliga roughly equates with (and he isn't in that much better a situation in the German national side - who are at best 5th favourites to win the EC next year without him actually being 100% first choice every game)
 

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Sorry, I was agreeing with Death that Origi's not good enough
My mistake. On balance, and with a very heavy heart I agree about Divock except he's an untouchable talismanic tribal cult hero!
We're not that type of shithouse set up that'd define a player's role as impact sub, see him perform that role four times in five months to perfection and then get someone in untested in EPL conditions to replace that, just because his 'potential' is closer to that of the top three.
 
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I'd take a punt on this guy,his stats are getting better with every season,he's played 24,scored 23 and assisted 9 in all comps so far this season.A few rumours of Haaland staying in the RB family and possibly joining RB Leipzig,which could potentially mean Werner is on is way out soon,i've also read we've been in contact with him lately about a move aswell.

How true these rumours are i don't know but if we could ship in this wide forward/striker for his alleged £27mill release clause,along with Minamino for £7.25mill,those 2 players for under £35mill to cover/rest around 5/6 attacking positions would be remarkable,especially when you could consider they'd cost in the region of £100mill+ if sold without clause's.

It would also leave us with a few quid in the transfer kitty to potentially buy a Havertz and a LB in the summer,all 4 covering and strengthening a large amount of positions within the squad for next year.
 

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https://www.thisisanfield.com/2020/...rned-down-an-approach-from-liverpool-in-2019/

I mean this is exactly what many us have been saying about the imaginary 4th world class forward that it's apparently so easy to convince to come and play for us.

I guess there's a question of having faith in your own ability to force your way into the team like someone such as Mbappe might have, but clearly Werner looks at the team and questions where he'll play, if he'll just end up as a sub, or playing against the likes of Burnley, or sitting on the bench in cup finals.

I'm not sure why this was such an unbelievable concept for some people to grasp.
I used to argue that Spurs were endlessly screwed because anyone who was willing to sign for them was by definition not good enough or motivated enough to get them to the next level. We're now the opposite. Anyone who looks at our team and says "I'm not going to get games there" is not the right fit. This was a common thought when we signed Mo, but clearly Mo felt differently.
 

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https://www.thisisanfield.com/2020/...rned-down-an-approach-from-liverpool-in-2019/

I mean this is exactly what many us have been saying about the imaginary 4th world class forward that it's apparently so easy to convince to come and play for us.

I guess there's a question of having faith in your own ability to force your way into the team like someone such as Mbappe might have, but clearly Werner looks at the team and questions where he'll play, if he'll just end up as a sub, or playing against the likes of Burnley, or sitting on the bench in cup finals.

I'm not sure why this was such an unbelievable concept for some people to grasp.
I did shake my head at this part though..

“Adding a player of Werner’s quality to the squad would have been a major boost to the Reds, and could well have ensured an even more convincing start to the campaign than already produced.”
 

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https://www.thisisanfield.com/2020/...rned-down-an-approach-from-liverpool-in-2019/

I mean this is exactly what many us have been saying about the imaginary 4th world class forward that it's apparently so easy to convince to come and play for us.

I guess there's a question of having faith in your own ability to force your way into the team like someone such as Mbappe might have, but clearly Werner looks at the team and questions where he'll play, if he'll just end up as a sub, or playing against the likes of Burnley, or sitting on the bench in cup finals.

I'm not sure why this was such an unbelievable concept for some people to grasp.
The counter argument is: do you want to be the key component in a team that wins nothing or be a cog in a machine that wins everything?
 

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Why would the Chelsea correspondent be in the loop on this? At best he is hearing it from Chelsea links who are repeating what Werners people have let the Chelsea people believe. At best. Even if true it's another argument as to why we need to go for top quality. Players who have faith in themselves due to their quality. Nearly there men like Werner may worry about their playing time, especially as he doesnt quite fit any of our forward roles and would be a glorified Origi.
 

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Nearly there men like Werner may worry about their playing time, especially as he doesnt quite fit any of our forward roles and would be a glorified Origi.
Not sure what to take from the article but if most of that is true I am not at all suprised. I have said all along that I don't believe Werner has the mental makeup, nor the inner fortitude, to excel at a Big 6 English club. The pressure would be far too great and IMO it would break him. He in no way has ever struck me as a player willing to fight or compete for anything, that just "showing up" because he's Timo Werner should be good enough. Hard pass.

EDIT: Again, I don't know how solid the Chelsea links are or if the writer was just speculating, but Werner isn't getting into their Starting XI any easier than ours. Frank makes his players work for their playing time.
 
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Hello fellas. My first post here.

I am a die hard Liverpool fan since the era of Kenny Dalglish, Graeame Souness and Bruce Grobbelaar. I would like to participate in this discussion for one of my favorite players at this moment - Timo Werner.
Werner is arguably the best striker in Europe at the moment and he can play equally well on both flangs and as a central forward. Unfortunately, he signed a contract extension just prior of the 2019 season till 30.06.2023. And any team, that is willing to have the German national must pay about 30 million euro "exit clause fee" on the top of his current price of 80 million euros. If Urgen Klopp can convince the Liverpool ownership that he really want this guy, then we are going to be set for years to come.
 

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Hello fellas. My first post here.

I am a die hard Liverpool fan since the era of Kenny Dalglish, Graeame Souness and Bruce Grobbelaar. I would like to participate in this discussion for one of my favorite players at this moment - Timo Werner.
Werner is arguably the best striker in Europe at the moment and he can play equally well on both flangs and as a central forward. Unfortunately, he signed a contract extension just prior of the 2019 season till 30.06.2023. And any team, that is willing to have the German national must pay about 30 million euro "exit clause fee" on the top of his current price of 80 million euros. If Urgen Klopp can convince the Liverpool ownership that he really want this guy, then we are going to be set for years to come.
What? Such a clause exists? 30mil on top of any agreed buying price?
 

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Hello fellas. My first post here.

I am a die hard Liverpool fan since the era of Kenny Dalglish, Graeame Souness and Bruce Grobbelaar. I would like to participate in this discussion for one of my favorite players at this moment - Timo Werner.
Werner is arguably the best striker in Europe at the moment and he can play equally well on both flangs and as a central forward. Unfortunately, he signed a contract extension just prior of the 2019 season till 30.06.2023. And any team, that is willing to have the German national must pay about 30 million euro "exit clause fee" on the top of his current price of 80 million euros. If Urgen Klopp can convince the Liverpool ownership that he really want this guy, then we are going to be set for years to come.
The exit clause fee is the price. It isn't added onto €80m.
 

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That still seems cheap given it is a clause in a new contract, one he signed after establishing himself as a target for many of Europe's top clubs.
 
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