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Virgil van Dijk (CB) Southampton

Virgil in January?


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AussieLad

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Ducker also gets shit loads wrong, like the Reina to replace Bravo story.

Looks to me as you said, first the Palmer article where we are close to finalising (screams of wanting City to bid to get a bidding war), now this by Ducker (3rd choice? Really?)

I still think he comes here, as people have said the loyalty shown by Klopp should be the deciding factor.
The other thing that got me is the £70M pricetag.

Yes, I would have accepted that last summer if we had got the deal done. But with it now known that we are the destination he wants, I say we lower the price to £45-50M which I think is a more accurate price range for him. If they still try to push for the full 70, then offer either Ings or Sturridge as a make weight as lets face it, they are desperate for goals, so by offering them a decent striker, it may be enough to push the deal through at a cheaper price
 

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The other thing that got me is the £70M pricetag.

Yes, I would have accepted that last summer if we had got the deal done. But with it now known that we are the destination he wants, I say we lower the price to £45-50M which I think is a more accurate price range for him. If they still try to push for the full 70, then offer either Ings or Sturridge as a make weight as lets face it, they are desperate for goals, so by offering them a decent striker, it may be enough to push the deal through at a cheaper price
I think the inflation could be right, he is one of a handful of players who could still play champions league football this season, that will carry a premium.
 

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I think the inflation could be right, he is one of a handful of players who could still play champions league football this season, that will carry a premium.
True, but the biggest price driving factor that Saints were banking on was a bidding war. That is now ruled out as it is known where he wants to end up. Others might still dream of getting him, but the minute we put our cards on the table it is us and VVD in the driving seat (as long as we put a respectable and genuine offer in).
 

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On the radio, they are saying that Man City have opened talks with Southampton. Tbh, I bracing myself for a disappointment. Man City seem to get anything they want and have all the luck. I do hope we get a CB, and a DM from somewhere and if possible.
 
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Ducker also gets shit loads wrong, like the Reina to replace Bravo story.

Looks to me as you said, first the Palmer article where we are close to finalising (screams of wanting City to bid to get a bidding war), now this by Ducker (3rd choice? Really?)

I still think he comes here, as people have said the loyalty shown by Klopp should be the deciding factor.
Yes... we would all love if loyalty by the club was rewarded by loyalty from the player. I haven't seen anything from VVD to indicate he is the type though.
 
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On the radio, they are saying that Man City have opened talks with Southampton. Tbh, I bracing myself for a disappointment. Man City to get anything they want and have all the luck. I do hope we get a CB, and a DM from somewhere and if possible.
My concern is that VvD staying at Soton is no longer an option for either party, VvD will definitely leave Soton this January and for political and economic reasons he will have little choice but to go to Man City irrespective of his preference.
 

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How deluded are we? If City want him they get him, simples really.

Walking away with the league

More money

Wages no problem

Further advanced than us at the moment

Do we really think he would turn them down to play for us. The thought of playing in front of Migs and Karius will be enough to put anyone off.

We sign him if City walk away.

Sadly thats how low we have fallen over the years. Twit & Twat did more damage that we realised at the time.
 

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Unfortunately the amounts are rised up dangerously and for a club like liverpool is very difficult to chalenge teams like city for example cause now times the quality of the squad is depended from the value of the players. Is used to be like that in the past but now more. So many players like VVD are overated, but for me we have to spend because is the only solution. The problem for us is the ffp problem that for the clubs like city, psg, real madrid etc doesnt excist because they have the cash yo.

So, tactically i think that klopp wants two players for the defence. No needs, wants. One is vvd because number (never lie) say that is the best in the aerial game for the last season, and secondly he passes well. The second defender has to be fast one to give a kind of deep in the defence, but is not the priority cause the most of the concedered are from corner or from the sideline.

VVD for lfc is a great choise but a risky one.We hope
 



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How deluded are we? If City want him they get him, simples really.

Walking away with the league

More money

Wages no problem

Further advanced than us at the moment

Do we really think he would turn them down to play for us. The thought of playing in front of Migs and Karius will be enough to put anyone off.

We sign him if City walk away.

Sadly thats how low we have fallen over the years. Twit & Twat did more damage that we realised at the time.
But he nearly came to us in the summer, if it hadn't been for someone mentioning it at some public event and the press got hold of it, he would have been well bedded in our defence unit by now.

I just feel sometimes, the Directors at our club (or whoever it is in charge) are not smart enough to close these deals covertly and quickly.
 

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Yeah, I think last summer was our chance. Chelsea had their own problems between that transfer board and Conte, City were more concentrated on other positions. Now they're on course to win the league and are onto strengthening where they need to do it next and the club (more so after last season when there were more question marks) is ready to back Pep.
 

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Klopp didn't think so in the summer.
Maybe the reason to that is that the deal was "done" but the club fucked it up. I have thought a lot about if the club really wanted him for £70m or not. Did the club found an excuse out of the deal? I doubt very much that one of our board members could fuck up a deal in the way he allegedly did and still not being replaced.

IMO the club got cold feet and backed out of the deal but had to do in a way that they at least looked like they tried try to sign him.

Maybe it is just another shit post by me but that is what I think happened.
 



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Do we still want VVD though.....played great, injures for a year, sulked when he didn’t get his requested transfer and has looked shite since returning?

Plenty other people out there that will cost less, and be less of a potential headache.
 

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Do we still want VVD though.....played great, injures for a year, sulked when he didn’t get his requested transfer and has looked shite since returning?

Plenty other people out there that will cost less, and be less of a potential headache.
Apologies, 'liked' this accidentally but intended to reply. Guess who got a new tablet for Christmas?

I would be amazed if we've gone off him since the Summer purely on the basis of his recent form for Southampton (which hasn't been as bad as some would like to make out). Doesn't say much about JK and his eye for a player. He ticks all the boxes for us in qualities we are currenty lacking in CB. They haven't disappeared in 4 months. I agree there may be other options out there but JK made him the one and only target for a reason. If he's now available for transfer I'd expect us to be all over him again.
 



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We have to be real, if City is in the race he will sign for them, I mean, they are practically champions, are in good position to win everything and have a good shot at the CL, and he would win more money than here, at this point I just don't know if he still 'prefers' us or not, the thing is, of we miss out on VD after all that happened and all that was written by the press, oh man what a punch on the stomach...
 

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We have to be real, if City is in the race he will sign for them, I mean, they are practically champions, are in good position to win everything and have a good shot at the CL, and he would win more money than here, at this point I just don't know if he still 'prefers' us or not, the thing is, of we miss out on VD after all that happened and all that was written by the press, oh man what a punch on the stomach...
We have as much of a shot at Champs League as City, if you mean progressing further. As for the bold part, you should be glad to have missed out of "VD". Don't think your missus or partner would appreciate it if you didn't.
 

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We have as much of a shot at Champs League as City, if you mean progressing further. As for the bold part, you should be glad to have missed out of "VD". Don't think your missus or partner would appreciate it if you didn't.
You're right, she wouldn't have liked it lol
 

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Pellegrino interviewed and was asked point blank if VVD has played his last game for the club. Just shrugged and said "There's a lot of speculation, we'll have to wait until January, and in the meantime I have to do the best for the team." (And when the coverage went back to the studio, the pundits laughed and said "He's gone.")

So question is going to be... us or City?
 



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Pellegrino interviewed and was asked point blank if VVD has played his last game for the club. Just shrugged and said "There's a lot of speculation, we'll have to wait until January, and in the meantime I have to do the best for the team." (And when the coverage went back to the studio, the pundits laughed and said "He's gone.")

So question is going to be... us or City?
I really want him here, let's hope that he still prefers us, but we can't deny that City could be a big wall between us and him
 

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My read is that they’re just using Palmer to put out a story and hoping Liverpool will feel pressure to up their offer a bit to get this done quick. Trying to remind everyone that they can wait until the end of January to make a decision and open up to other bidders.
 



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