Agree, mate.Bobby is a 9, Shaqiri is a wide forward.
Both can play '10' to a certain level, and in a squad that needs versatility that's great.
But they are not, in my opinion, top class attacking midfielders who do the job at a similar level, and/or in a similar way, to Coutinho and Oxlade.
If we're talking about having a best 11 that can win the big matches against the best sides, we need better in the central attacking midfielder area of the pitch - whether you see that as a 8 or 10 - than we have in Bobby, Shaqiri, Lallana, Keita (until proven otherwise), Oxlade (until we see what level he comes back).
I agree with you, but I think you are missing the point: the play style required and the player's play style.The ox is a 10. Keita is a 10. Lallana is a 10. Mane is a 10. Firmino is a 10.
I remember when rodgers had suarez, sturridge, sterling and coutinho as his front 4....they were equally interchangeable in the course of a match.
Dribbling into the pockets, pass and play, get behind the defense etc...maybe coutinho was more unique in his approach.
With shaqiri, you have a 10, a 9 and a 7 as well.
Funnily enough I feel like Wijnaldum or Milner are average #8’s. Milner is a better wide midfielder and his best matches were played out wide. Wijnaldum doesn’t have the forward impetus for me to consider him a #8. He seems to hit an invisible wall when looking at the opponents’ goal with the ball at his feet. Even at Watford towards the end when he and Bobby were cycling the ball in the far corner in front of the away fans, Wijnaldum always prefers to turn his back instead of dropping a shoulder. That just doesn’t work for me, we are dying to get Keita back into the side and we REALLY miss Oxlade.We have an abundance of wingers turned midfielders, that we seem to be playing with two 8s like gini and milner
The fact that Bobby does some 10 type work from the 9 position is a bonus. It doesn't make him a 10.In my opinion - Firmino on that #10 position can do at least the same things he did as a #9. Performance and numbers, attack and 'defend' - more than Klopp could ever ask for from an attacking midfielder. Even as our #9 he is everywhere on the pitch. Do you know another #10 in world football who defends and presses as much as Bobby?
He hasn't. Instead the relative success on the pitch he has been having for Lyon has exacerbated his worst egotistical instinct.Depay's attitude at United was appalling iirc. Unless he's had a big personality change in the meantime I wouldn't be putting him anywhere near this team.
I think with the three in midfield you need at least 1 of Ox or Keita to play. I would prefer both when we come up against a more defensive side. With Ox being injured, and Keita not playing much, we have been very predictable and one dimensional in the middle.But for the three other positions you'd use three CM's from Hendo, Fab, Milner, Gini, Keita and wouldn't select Shaqiri or Lallana to start.
Let's ask Lyon if we can buy depay, ndombele, fekir and aouar.One of Depay or Werner would be all we need to complete our attack + AM
Firmino (as the False9 in the 4-3-3)
Werner / Depay (as #9 in the 4-2-3-1
Brewster / Solanke
Depay / Werner
Firmino (in the 4-2-3-1)
Depay and Werner will both have one year left on their contracts in the summer. I‘m having some concerns about Timo Werner but i‘m 100% sure Klopp would make Depay our best Scorer (Goals + Assists).
Ndombele is fantastic too, he'd be an absolute monster in our midfield. Depay is just blatantly one of the least Liverpool players around at the top level and I'd hope he wouldn't ever be considered.And settle for the last two,Depay is a bit of a knob.
Does he tell kids to quit school or what mistakes did he make? Or is it because he signed for ManU and is into Rap music?If you mean why does he say that, then he is someone who likes the fame and money but not the hard work or responsibility of being a world class player
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/nov/12/memphis-depay-big-club-player-small-time-attitude-lyon-ligue-1Does he tell kids to quit school or what mistakes did he make? Or is it because he signed for ManU and is into Rap music?
Isn't this counter intuitive to what man city is trying to do?Jadon Sancho even if it costs us £100mil.