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How about we get a LB who can also play RB (better than clyne)?
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Here's what I think is probably going to happen next summer:

- Promote Grabara/Kelleher, or sign an experienced backup, to replace Mignolet (ideally someone homegrown, like Heaton).
- Promote Camacho to replace Clyne, who's role in the squad is redundant at this stage (Clyne has only played one league cup game this season).
- Sign a young homegrown LB to replace Moreno when his contract expires.
- Make a decision on Lallana. His role in the squad will diminish a lot once Keita is settled and Ox is back, and though he would be excellent depth he may want to move on to play regularly. His role as depth midfielder could also perhaps be replaced by Curtis Jones. Up to him if he stays or leaves.
- Make a decision on Harry Wilson. Could be a good depth option but gametime will probably be limited.
- Sign a top CF to replace Sturridge (who's contract expires next summer). For example, Timo Werner has only 12 months on his contract next summer and would be an astute signing.
- Decide which one of Solanke, Origi, and Brewster should be kept around as depth CF. Perhaps something like Origi sold, Solanke loaned, and Brewster kept as depth.

That would leave the squad for 2019/20 as follows:

--------------------- Alisson
----------- Grabara/Kelleher/New GK

Trent -------- Gomez ------- Van Dijk ----- Robertson
Camacho --- Matip -------- Lovren ------- New LB

--------------------- Fabinho
------------------- Henderson

--------- Wijnaldum ------------- Keita
---------- Milner ------------------ Ox
---------- Lallana/Jones

Salah -------------- Firmino -------------- Mané
Shaqiri ------------ New ST -------------- Wilson
--------------------- Brewster ---------------------


In summary:

Outgoing: Mignolet, Clyne, Moreno, Sturridge, Origi, and possibly Lallana.
Loan: Solanke, Grujic, et al
Incoming: Experienced homegrown GK, young homegrown LB, and a Top class CF/attacker. (For example, Heaton + Sessegnon + Werner).
 

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How about we get a LB who can also play RB (better than clyne)?
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The team loses a lot of dynamism in attack by having a wrong-footed fullback. Just look at how many goals arise from quick crosses by both Robertson and Trent, which just weren't there last season with Milner cutting back onto his right all the time.

The squad is pretty set at RB anyways, so best to just recruit a player who can do a job at LB first and foremost.

Btw, given how solid Robertson is defensively it would probably make sense to have an alternate LB who excels more in an attacking sense (though ideally with as little defensive downside as possible. I.e. Not someone as inbalanced as Moreno).

For example, Sessegnon seems like such an obvious transfer target, given the previous transfer links; his homegrown status; the fact that Fulham will probably get relegated; that his contract expires in 18 months; and that he can play both LB and LW in an attacking fashion.
 

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Another thing to bear in mind with regards to the RB spot is the development of Ki-Jana Hoever who was recently signed from Ajax. He's only 17 in January but is already impressing for the u23's.

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/mature-ki-jana-hoever-hailed-15532764
"'Mature' Ki-Jana Hoever hailed as Liverpool excitement grows over Dutch defender"

Obviously you don't want to pin the hopes of the first team on unproven youngsters, but with Camacho and Hoever there does seem to be pretty good long-term alternatives to solve the backup RB spot internally (not to mention the fact that the first team squad already has plenty of options between Trent, Gomez, Milner, Fabinho even after Clyne inevitably leaves).
 

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Just read Matip is out for 6 weeks. I wonder if a CB signing is necessary in January?
Matip and Gomez should be back in the middle of January. Unless we get a couple of more bad injuries in that time I wouldn't see why we would buy another CB.

How about we get a LB who can also play RB (better than clyne)?
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Having reliable, versatile players makes it much easier to get through these tricky periods in the season where games come every 3 games. Despite not being right backs Gomez and Milner are better footballers than Clyne and I'd pick either of them ahead of him without a doubt (probably Fabinho too). If we could get a left footed player who could either play CB or in midfield, they could cover left back and still offer more than Moreno.

As for the names...I've talked about Ake before, but if we could convince Hector to leave Cologne then that would be an even better solution.
 
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Just read Matip is out for 6 weeks. I wonder if a CB signing is necessary in January?
That's unfortunate, but I don't think there's any reason to sign a CB.

There's enough gap between fixtures in the next month that Lovren and Van Dijk should be able to manage to play them all, barring any more unfortunate injuries.

Sun 16th | United (H)
Fri 21st | Wolves (a)
Wed 26th | Newcastle (H)
Sat 29th | Arsenal (H)
Thu 3rd | City (a)
Mon 7th | Wolves (a) (FA cup)
Sat 12th | Brighton (a)
Sat 19th | Palace (H)
Wed 30th | Leicester (H)

Even if Lovren or Van Dijk would pick up a knock as well, using Phillips or Fabinho at CB in one or two fixtures wouldn't be the end of the world either, unless perhaps if it's against City or Arsenal.

Whatever the case, it's certainly quite unnecessary to sign yet another CB just to cover one or two fixtures. The CB depth is fine at the moment, and it would be extremely unlucky to have 3 of them out at the same time, let alone 2.
 

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That's unfortunate, but I don't think there's any reason to sign a CB.

There's enough gap between fixtures in the next month that Lovren and Van Dijk should be able to manage to play them all, barring any more unfortunate injuries.

Sun 16th | United (H)
Fri 21st | Wolves (a)
Wed 26th | Newcastle (H)
Sat 29th | Arsenal (H)
Thu 3rd | City (a)
Mon 7th | Wolves (a) (FA cup)
Sat 12th | Brighton (a)
Sat 19th | Palace (H)
Wed 30th | Leicester (H)

Even if Lovren or Van Dijk would pick up a knock as well, using Phillips or Fabinho at CB in one or two fixtures wouldn't be the end of the world either, unless perhaps if it's against City or Arsenal.

Whatever the case, it's certainly quite unnecessary to sign yet another CB just to cover one or two fixtures. The CB depth is fine at the moment, and it would be extremely unlucky to have 3 of them out at the same time, let alone 2.
Philips is injured too
 

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Philips is injured too
*facepalm* lol

Pretty sure we'd be fine with Fabinho next to Van Dijk in most fixtures. It's not really an issue though so long as Lovren and Van Dijk stay fit.

It's actually likely that Lovren would have come in for Matip anyways once he was back (which he is now) so it's not really an issue unless there's yet another injury. Bad timing either way though, as I'm sure Klopp would have wanted to rotate considerably in the coming weeks to keep everyone fresh for the run-in.
 

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He got subbed off against Everton 3 weeks ago and hasn't played since. Not sure what's up with him.
Yeah, I had seen that but couldn't see any reference to any injury. Odd one. Probably should discuss this in his player thread. Oh wait... :tongue:

Would be good to know more if anyone has any info.
 

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Klavan, let's bring the King back as a stop gap.

We could also sign De Ligt.

Lets bring him in. Philips isn't good enough. 6 weeks is quite a few games and Dejan likes missing games. Don't fancy seeing Fabinho at CB.
 

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He got subbed off against Everton 3 weeks ago and hasn't played since. Not sure what's up with him.
That game was his return from injury also, so he has likely aggrevated it.

Not that he should be considered for 1st team action anyway.
 

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Fabinho did some minutes there in pre season. Would be amazed if Phillips was picked ahead of him.
 

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Just read Matip is out for 6 weeks. I wonder if a CB signing is necessary in January?
Think so. 6 weeks isn't the longest amount of time but they would still need time to get back to match fitness after recovering from the injury. This also leaves our current defensive stocks threadbare. We don't have anyone except lovren and van dijk in the senior team. This has the potential to derail us

Don't know who we can get in January and whether the youngsters are able to come in and step up. If anyone can guide the youngsters and build them up , it has to be virgil.
 

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Think so. 6 weeks isn't the longest amount of time but they would still need time to get back to match fitness after recovering from the injury. This also leaves our current defensive stocks threadbare. We don't have anyone except lovren and van dijk in the senior team. This has the potential to derail us

Don't know who we can get in January and whether the youngsters are able to come in and step up. If anyone can guide the youngsters and build them up , it has to be virgil.
Most signings take time to settle, and by the time they'd be ready to feature Matip and Gomez would already be back.

Moreover, our fixtures in January and early February after City are good so we should be able to manage even if one of Fabinho/Wijnaldum/Phillips had to cover at CB for a bit:

Thu 3rd | City (a)
Mon 7th | Wolves (a) (FA cup)
Sat 12th | Brighton (a)
Sat 19th | Palace (H)
Fa cup 4th round
Wed 30th | Leicester (H)
Sat 2nd | West Ham (a)
Sat 9th | Bournemouth (H)
 

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Most signings take time to settle, and by the time they'd be ready to feature Matip and Gomez would already be back.

Moreover, our fixtures in January and early February after City are good so we should be able to manage even if one of Fabinho/Wijnaldum/Phillips had to cover at CB for a bit:

Thu 3rd | City (a)
Mon 7th | Wolves (a) (FA cup)
Sat 12th | Brighton (a)
Sat 19th | Palace (H)
Fa cup 4th round
Wed 30th | Leicester (H)
Sat 2nd | West Ham (a)
Sat 9th | Bournemouth (H)
Any which way , it's highly unlikely that we'd be able to sign a CB who'll be ready to play against city on Jan 3rd. Just got to get through these matches and wrap lovren and van dijk in cotton wool till then. We should have a better understanding of when Gomez will return by then as it's only 5 weeks to his comeback now.

Getting two defenders injured is incredibly unlucky. Need to still be looking at getting a january transfer, maybe for Declan rice ? he hasn't signed a contract extension with west ham
 

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Yeah, I had seen that but couldn't see any reference to any injury. Odd one. Probably should discuss this in his player thread. Oh wait... :tongue:

Would be good to know more if anyone has any info.
I found this in the Echo:

Currently, there isn't much in reserve. Academy youngster Nat Phillips impressed Klopp massively with his performances during the pre-season tour of America.

The 21-year-old defender would be the next in line but he's been hampered by an Achilles problem this season. He hasn't featured for Liverpool Under-23s since going off at half-time in the mini derby at Goodison last month.
 

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Think so. 6 weeks isn't the longest amount of time but they would still need time to get back to match fitness after recovering from the injury. This also leaves our current defensive stocks threadbare. We don't have anyone except lovren and van dijk in the senior team. This has the potential to derail us

Don't know who we can get in January and whether the youngsters are able to come in and step up. If anyone can guide the youngsters and build them up , it has to be virgil.
I've heard on the grapevine Caulker's available:think:
 

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Does anyone know anything about RB Salzburg?

I noticed tonight they've won all 6 of their EL games and have won 14/17 of their league games. They must have a few players worth looking at.

Amadou Haidara looks like he was tipped to replace Keita at Lepizig so he could be one to watch.
 

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Does anyone know anything about RB Salzburg?

I noticed tonight they've won all 6 of their EL games and have won 14/17 of their league games. They must have a few players worth looking at.

Amadou Haidara looks like he was tipped to replace Keita at Lepizig so he could be one to watch.
Got eliminated by Crvena Zvezda in CL qualifications because they took their foot off the gas before their opponent was done. A decent side, I know about Haidara and one centre back of theirs was decent but that was about it. Still, they seem to have decent scouting, two of their former players eventually ended up signing for Liverpool for almost 90 million pounds combined.
 

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Got eliminated by Crvena Zvezda in CL qualifications because they took their foot off the gas before their opponent was done. A decent side, I know about Haidara and one centre back of theirs was decent but that was about it. Still, they seem to have decent scouting, two of their former players eventually ended up signing for Liverpool for almost 90 million pounds combined.
Yep, not just scouting but they (RB football generally) are very active in Africa with academies etc.

Must fly close to the line with FIFA transfer rules.
 

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Looking at the squad now it's great. I'd say there's only really one area in a "starting 11" that could do with upgrading. Even that's in question if Ox comes back at the level he was showing when he got injured.

There are maybe 2 or 3 covering roles that are needed and apart from that we have great strength in depth. What we have in those areas is good enough to be getting on with.

GK: Alisson perfect 1st choice and the two younger keepers can duke it out for 3rd/4th choice for now. Mignolet is fine as current 2nd choice but ideally we need a similar style to Alisson and Simon is likely to push to leave. Can't see Karius returning either. So an experienced sweeper keeper type to come in as 2nd choice. That player might be free or cheap so we might actually make money here moving 2 out and 1 in.

CB: I'd only touch if Matip or Lovren push to leave but currently I think every one is getting enough time and chances to stay happy so I think everyone might stay for a little bit yet.

FB: With the strength at CB and Fabinho/Milner able to cover from midfield I think RB is fine with Trent and maybe a youth player option. Sorry Clyne. At LB Robertson is awesome as a first choice. Moreno ok as a back up but I suspect he will want to move on so maybe someone here. Maybe someone who can play more than one position as Robertson hopefully won't miss many games.

CM: Looking at a 2 man base you've got Henderson, Fabinho, Wijnaldum, Keita, Milner, Grujic. In a 3 man midfield maybe Ox, Lallana and Shaqiri too. I think it's time for Lallana to move on unfortunately, have a last hurrah elsewhere. I'd say if Milner stays let Grujic go on loan again. If Rabiot can be persuaded to come then I think letting Milner go to Leeds might be appropriate and keeping Grujic on loan but it's not essential, just an opportunity to improve that might be possible so why not. Sometimes might need a better AM when in a 3 man midfield.

Attack: We have quite a fluid attack and, although not quite firing on all cylinders, a bear perfect starting front 3. When in a front 3 I'd say Firmino, Salah, Mane, Shaqiri, Sturridge (if he stays), Wilson and Brewster would be good if not quite great. In a 4231 I'd also include Ox in the numbers but it's not quite as good a set of options then. I think one strong, top player could solve our issues. Either able to play AM and/or CF and ideally wide on the left too. Or two players with Sturridge going. Origi and Ings leaving and Solanke probably going on loan.

So;
Mignolet upgrade.
Moreno upgrade/replacement.
Lallana upgrade.
Possible Sturridge replacement.

If we got a combo like Sessegnon and Dybala we could cover three of those upgrades with 2 players leaving more room for the likes of Wilson and Brewster.