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Caradoc

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Koulibaly can be a beast of a defender but he can also lose his head. We’ve already got a CB whose a bit like that. We don’t need to spend £100million+ for another one.
 

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Koulibaly can be a beast of a defender but he can also lose his head. We’ve already got a CB whose a bit like that. We don’t need to spend £100million+ for another one.
Koulibaly is the beast, its different class than Lovren and Gomez, Gomez is youth thats true but you must sacrifice some to get that kind of player... I think we need one more good CB like VVD good in aerial DF and streght. We have best start ever that need to stay like that or better.. YNWA!
 

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Koulibaly is the beast, its different class than Lovren and Gomez, Gomez is youth thats true but you must sacrifice some to get that kind of player... I think we need one more good CB like VVD good in aerial DF and streght. We have best start ever that need to stay like that or better.. YNWA!
No offense bud but the idea of sacrificing Gomez is ridiculous, his performances this season have been terrific and he's only 21. Koulibaly is probably a better defender, but not by much, but Gomez is orders of magnitude better on the ball than Koulibaly.

I'd have Koulibaly anyway and rotate those three, that's a sure fire way to maintain our incredibly stingy defence, but I wouldn't get rid of Gomez for any centre back in the game.
 

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Koulibaly is the beast, its different class than Lovren and Gomez, Gomez is youth thats true but you must sacrifice some to get that kind of player... I think we need one more good CB like VVD good in aerial DF and streght. We have best start ever that need to stay like that or better.. YNWA!

Yeah, you're right, let's break up the meanest defence in the history of the Premiership and get rid of trash like Gomez and Lovren. :rolleyes:
 

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Eriksen would be my no.1 priority come the summer if not now. He’s had an offer on the table from Spurs for a month now and hasn’t signed it so would only have 12 months left on his contract come the summer

https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/tottenham/tottenham-growing-twitchy-as-christian-eriksen-stalls-on-latest-contract-offer-a4028416.html
Same here, been saying that for a while in this thread.

He's a brilliant player & would be a perfect fit for us, he would make our team a lot stronger, people go on about Kane & Son and rightfully so but he's the one that makes Spurs tick.

He used to mention about wanting to play in Spain although that was some time ago, if there was any chance he'd want to come here we'd surely have to go for it?
 

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Eriksen would be my no.1 priority come the summer if not now. He’s had an offer on the table from Spurs for a month now and hasn’t signed it so would only have 12 months left on his contract come the summer

https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/tottenham/tottenham-growing-twitchy-as-christian-eriksen-stalls-on-latest-contract-offer-a4028416.html
He'll be 27 in the summer, which is perhaps a bit over what I think is the ideal age for any new midfield or attacking signings, with long-term squad continuity in mind. You don't want ALL your players the same age bracket or you'll be faced with a situation of having to replace them all at the same time which is obviously not optimal.

That said, he's a quality player who would certainly strengthen the squad.

I do wonder though how and where he would fit into the squad. Once Ox is back you'd think the midfield would be set, even if Lallana were to leave. Would Eriksen really want to leave Spurs to go somewhere he wouldn't be first choice?
 

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He'll be 27 in the summer, which is perhaps a bit over what I think is the ideal age for any new midfield or attacking signings, with long-term squad continuity in mind. You don't want ALL your players the same age bracket or you'll be faced with a situation of having to replace them all at the same time which is obviously not optimal.

That said, he's a quality player who would certainly strengthen the squad.

I do wonder though how and where he would fit into the squad. Once Ox is back you'd think the midfield would be set, even if Lallana were to leave. Would Eriksen really want to leave Spurs to go somewhere he wouldn't be first choice?
He’ll be in his prime, how could you think 27 is to old :shocked:

There’s definitely be a space in the team for someone of Eriksen’s ability. Yes AOC is coming back but Lallana is off in the summer as he’s no longer of any real use to the team.
 

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He’ll be in his prime, how could you think 27 is to old :shocked:

There’s definitely be a space in the team for someone of Eriksen’s ability. Yes AOC is coming back but Lallana is off in the summer as he’s no longer of any real use to the team.
So Eriksen (or any other new AM) would get the number of games Lallana played in this season. 8 games most of them from the bench (I think). Whose game time would Ox take? Shaqiris? Is Shaqiri happy with the number of games he is playing at the moment? Or does he deserve a bit more?

The success of Shaqiri as a CAM + Firmino also being used there does mean we don’t need another CAM.
 

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Eriksen is far superior to Shaqiri & anything else we have in midfield, he'd stroll into our team and improve it a lot, technically he's top draw, he's clever, creates & scores goals & many from outside the box, he's not the lazy type either.

I think City will get him if one of big 2 in Spain don't.
 

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He’ll be in his prime, how could you think 27 is to old :shocked:

There’s definitely be a space in the team for someone of Eriksen’s ability. Yes AOC is coming back but Lallana is off in the summer as he’s no longer of any real use to the team.
I never said 27 was old. I said it wasn't wise to have all your players in the same age bracket.

In 3-4 years most of our key players will be close to or entering their 30's. Ideally you plan ahead and have another group of players ready to enter their primes when the current starters are exiting theirs. Otherwise you'd have the starters AND squad option all needing replacing at the same time.

The club are clearly shrewd with squad building though now so this really isn't something to debate much. There's clear signs from the Keita and Robertson signings (not to mention Trent and Gomez's ages) that the club have longevity in mind.
 

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Not just sell him but just throw him in on top of 50 million quid.

The poster should be flogged for saying that.
Face/palm

Are we getting the kids crossing over from Chelsea and man utd now because they are getting jeered in school for supporting them or something
 
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Same here, been saying that for a while in this thread.

He's a brilliant player & would be a perfect fit for us, he would make our team a lot stronger, people go on about Kane & Son and rightfully so but he's the one that makes Spurs tick.

He used to mention about wanting to play in Spain although that was some time ago, if there was any chance he'd want to come here we'd surely have to go for it?

I agree. I’d actually take Erikson and Son in a heartbeat if we could get them.
 

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So Eriksen (or any other new AM) would get the number of games Lallana played in this season. 8 games most of them from the bench (I think). Whose game time would Ox take? Shaqiris? Is Shaqiri happy with the number of games he is playing at the moment? Or does he deserve a bit more?

The success of Shaqiri as a CAM + Firmino also being used there does mean we don’t need another CAM.
So where does Fekir come into the team. If whatever happened in the summer hadn’t happened he’d be at Anfield. Eriksen would be a fantastic Fekir replacement
 

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So where does Fekir come into the team. If whatever happened in the summer hadn’t happened he’d be at Anfield. Eriksen would be a fantastic Fekir replacement
Things change.

Shaqiri was signed after the whole Fekir affair and has proven to be an excellent player whilst in recent weeks Firmino has proven he can play there to a very high level. The #10 position is one of the last positions we need to buy for now, IMO.
 

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Things change.

Shaqiri was signed after the whole Fekir affair and has proven to be an excellent player whilst in recent weeks Firmino has proven he can play there to a very high level. The #10 position is one of the last positions we need to buy for now, IMO.
It has been said previously by many that Shaqiri was being purchased along with Fekir not instead of Fekir.
 

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It has been said previously by many that Shaqiri was being purchased along with Fekir not instead of Fekir.
Whether that was true or not is unimportant now, on the evidence of this season.

Besides, part of Fekir's appeal to me was his ability to play in the front line as well and the amount of goals he scores. Eriksen doesn't quite offer that.

He's a fantastic player but once again I don't think he's one we really need. Besides, Firmino operates in similar areas and this Liverpool team are at their best when the play goes through him. Fundamentally I think those two aren't ideally suited to playing together, but then I never thought Firmino and Coutinho were as well suited as everyone claimed either.

A more interesting use of Eriksen would be at the base of midfield in a 2 next to a more defensively minded player (Fab/Gini). That's an idea I could get behind.
 
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Attacking midfield / #10 was sorted with Shaqiri and Firmino also playing there if needed.

Same goes for the #8 position even if Lallana leaves because we still have Ox and Grujic coming back. If Milner decides to leave then maybe things could change but with his experience and his versatility Milly is a managers dream.

So what do we need in the summer?
I think we can still add some goals to our attack. Sturridge, Origi and Solanke could all leave and all of them are no competition to our Front3.

Timo Werner could be the player to complete our attack. Young. 1 year left on his contract. Proven goalscorer. Can play ST and LW with the same quality.
 

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Just because we went back for Van Dijk doesn't mean we are going to go back for Fekr this January. Van Dijk is more of an exception rather than a trend.
 

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I think plans/tactics/formations are evolving and therefore what we target needs to as well.

4-3-3 with Salah and Mane either side of Firmino is slowly fading away and being used less and less.

The formation we use most now you could call 4-4-1-1 or 4-4-2 or 4-2-3-1 it's quite fluid though.

I'd say it boils down to a change from 3 CM's and 3 forwards to 2 CM's and 4 forwards. We used the 4-3-3 after Coutinho left to readdress how shaky we were at the back, solidify things, and because we only had 3 starting capable forwards. It wasn't too bad though as Ox was regularly one of the CM's and he adds a lot of forward thrust and attacking momentum from there. Without him though we've seen how flattened our attack seems in that formation.

We've now solidified our defence and don't need that level of support anymore, our defensive performance is one of the best the English top flight has ever seen. With the success of Shaqiri we also now have four players that could legitimately start so we are reverting back from 3 CM's and 3 forwards to 2 CM's and 4 forwards.

Across the back 5 I don't see much change occurring through our choice. Maybe just changes on back up GK and LB for players more suited to our tactics if or when Mignolet and Moreno go.

The front 6 positions though I see quite a lot of change coming. Keita (who will eventually settle in and boss it, especially when he gets to consistently play CM instead of number 10 or left wing), Fabinho, Shaqiri, Salah, Mane, Firmino and Ox are all set in stone to be staying. I think it's possible either or both of Henderson or Wijnaldum could leave but probably only if the player pushes and I'll go with the assumption they both stay for now.

In the 2 CM spots then that's Fabinho (offers some emergency cover in defence), Keita (offers some emergency cover in the forward positions), Wijnaldum and Henderson. There's room for one more here with Milner (for maybe a little while but not long), Grujic (maybe to replace Milner soon) or possibly the surprise arrival of a signing (such as Rabiot) the options.

In the forward positions I no longer see roles for Ings (deal to leave already agreed), Origi, Solanke (till significantly improved and probably only leaves on loan for now), Markovic and Sturridge (possible exception if he's willing to sign a new contract as a sub/cameo option only).

For me then where we still need some significant purchasing (and the only place in the squad that we do, which shows how amazing this squad is) is the front 4.

Ox, Shaqiri, Mane, Salah and Firmino are 5 options for 8 spots. If Wilson and Brewster are to be trusted then maybe that's another option or two covered (maybe with Sturridge 2 spots covered between 3 players). But I still think that leaves at least 1 possibly 2 positions open for a real top class talent or two.

I think I'd be looking at the front two as choosing from Firmino, Salah and Brewster . Possibly with Sturridge around as a supersub. I'm thinking it's stretched a bit thin for my liking and we'd possibly end up playing just one of them central more often than we'd want to tactically. I think we need to have another strong option here.

On the right we'd be able to pick from Salah, Shaqiri, Ox, Wilson and Mane (although they can all play at least one other position too so it's not as overloaded as it initially looks).

When we play with an attacking mid playing just off a front man the options are from Firmino, Ox, Shaqiri, Mane and Wilson so although any new players who can play here would be good it's not exactly something we need to target.

On the left though we would seemingly be looking at Mane and Wilson as the only natural fits. Firmino can play there but is not a natural fit for the role. Ox, Shaqiri and Salah all probably can play there but Klopp hasn't seemed keen to use them there yet. Keita has had to do a job there but it just seems to be getting in the way of him integrating into his natural CM role. Milner is a bit too slow and not attacking enough these days whilst he's still here. I think we need a real top line player here able to play week in week out, versatile if possible (especially if he can play in the front 2) but that strong choice on the left could always mean either Mane or Shaqiri start on the right increasing competition for places.

So over the next 2/3 Windows I think for me it boils down to;

Mignolet replacement/upgrade. My choice would be someone like Reina or Muslera.

Possible Moreno replacement/upgrade. Could just use Clyne and Milner for now if any promising academy kids around. I think Felipe Luis could be an interesting free signing in the summer for a season or two of experienced cover.

Possible Milner replacement. Although this could just be Grujic and we should only bring someone in if it's a real top line player that's become available and it's too good an opportunity to pass up maybe Rabiot or Eriksen.

One top class attacker who is fast and a goal threat and naturally fits on the left. Preferably can also play CF. In theory this player would be replacing Lallana and Origi but in reality would be used a lot more than both put together. Heung-min Son from Spurs would be my choice but that may not be possible. Timo Werner seems to be mentioned a lot but he seems more a CF pushed out wide so not sure.

Possible Sturridge replacement only if the new left sided attacker can't play CF or if Dan isn't happy to stay as a cameo player. It would only really be a squad role anyway with the strength we have elsewhere and the expectation that Brewster will be given playing time, if that changes and Sturridge leaves as well as Brewster going on loan then we might need a more established option instead. If that were the case maybe someone like Timo Werner but otherwise I think it's best to come to an agreement with Sturridge. It'll probably be Brewsters spot sooner rather than later anyway and Solanke may have a cracking success of a loan and make the spot his too.
 

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@Anfield rd Dreamer Timo Werner definetely no CF pushed out wide. He started his career at Stuttgart as a winger. He is still being used as a winger at Leipzig from time to time. At the world cup he admitted that he sometimes struggles against deep defending teams and then prefers the wing.
Thanks for the info. Might be a good fit for our needs then. Just a question of if he has high enough quality.
 

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For more information go to the Timo Werner thread :)
Seen that comparison but from what I can tell it seems a bit unfair. Werner has played a lot more as a forward whilst Mane has played a lot more as a provider. The roles haven't quite been the same and out of context could be misleading. I'm sure he's probably good enough, seems a good fit and is still a young and improving player. I'm just going to reserve full judgement till I know a bit more.
 

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We're all delighted with the transfer activity of the past three years.

We have risen due to the shrewd investment of about £100m net, the gross obviously being higher than that, funded by the sale of players no longer required and the sale of Coutinho.

The club deserves credit, but whilst we all want to see younger players come through as part of the next phase of squad development, the reality is that you still have to spend money to be as competitive as you can possibly be. You also have to do so without constantly losing your best players to fund it.

You might compete short term if you build as we have and then curtail your spending, but if you do that City, United and Chelsea will eventually spend their way ahead of you again.

Good management bridges gaps, but it only goes so far. It's why clubs like Leicester don't sustain success when they have it, and why Spurs have never won anything to date. It's also why City, United and Chelsea have won most of the trophies over the past decade, and always rebound even when they appear to be declining. They spend their way back to it.

I don't want irresponsible spending, but I do think we spend less net as a club than we could.

I still believe FSG are realising a return on their investment by taking money out via FSM in ways I have outlined previously. Whilst it's their right to do so, I believe it's overlooked in the haze and euphoria of our current position that this is money that could cement our trophy winning chances.

There is no doubt that adding more quality to this squad would sure up our chances of winning things and I find it hugely disappointing that we seem to not be taking the opportunity to do so whilst we have the chance. I also find it disappointing that we seem to be looking to trim the squad back at a time when we need the depth to compete on three fronts.

I'm absolutely delighted with our current position, but it doesn't change my view that LFC should be able to spend more, to do so more consistently and I still fear that part of our approach will include the sale our of top players to fund investment that could and should be possible without doing so.
 

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Some good points there above.

"the reality is that you still have to spend money to be as competitive as you can possibly be. You also have to do so without constantly losing your best players to fund it.

You might compete short term if you build as we have and then curtail your spending, but if you do that City, United and Chelsea will eventually spend their way ahead of you again"


Completely agree with this, this is absolutely key if we really want to be back up there again for a good amount of time at least, we always have to be looking and wanting to improve the team/squad, we need to keep spending, I hope we do it again in the summer, we need to go big on 1 preferably 2 signings along with shipping out as much deadwood as feasable.