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We have a good team but feel some overrate it a bit too much. We need a strong squad and not just because of injuries, if we want to regularly compete at the top and win trophies. The club needs to always look forward and seek improvement.

Alisson, Robertson, van Dijk, Gomez, Mane, Salah, Firmino. All quality. Robertson and Gomez have really stepped up this season. Fabinho is producing more now and is looking better. But we need to build around these players and fill in the gaps. We have more than just a need for some backups.

Midfield remains a priority. Against the bigger teams last season and this we haven't always feared that great. Keita is a work in progress. Henderson, Milner, Wijnaldum, Lallana, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Shaqiri all offer something different but they're not exactly your elite players.

We need another forward. We're too reliant on the front three as it is and there's little behind them. In defence we could do with another fullback and a centre back over Lovren and Matip. Both don't quite fit the bill and there's a weakness there.

Klopp hasn't had too much to spend, relatively, on a net basis before this summer, but he needs to be backed. There will still be a bit of shuffling around with a few exits this summer, but we're at the point now pretty much where we can isolate just two or three positions. The club has made some big strides this season so far but this is where we need to see some ambition and go that extra gear.
 
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You can see why we are interested in Werner by this list.

Also impressive we have 3 players in the top 50. That's more than most of the top European clubs. May say why improvements are so so hard for us to find now, especially players knowing they aren't automatically 1st choice. Displacing our front 3 isn't easy.
 
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You can see why we are interested in Werner by this list.

Also impressive we have 3 players in the top 50. That's more than most of the top European clubs. May say why improvements are so so hard for us to find now, especially players knowing they aren't automatically 1st choice. Displacing our front 3 isn't easy.

Is Fekir on there? Can’t see him!

Spuds have 3 players on the list.
 

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Allowing Clyne to leave baffles me the most. We are in 3 competitions with currently 1 right back. If Loverns meltdown in the big games have proven anything, its the fact that he should not be our CB option if Gomez is fully fit. Gomez therefore should not be covering right back and at 19 Trent should not be expected to play every 3 days for a full season.

Slightly frustrated, as we need to be adding depth to the squad, not getting rid of players who could play significant roles as the season unfolds. The fact that Danilo and Laporte started against us on Thursday, with Mendy injured and Walker on the bench, highlights the importance of proper depth.

I don't blame Clyne for being annoyed - Milner was starting at right back ahead of him when Trent was injured. I can't get my head around that logic!

If we can start Feb with the rest of the squad intact, and the addition of Werner, then that in my opinion still isn't enough, but its a start, because we've been lucky with injuries so far this season to our front 3, and we need a player who can provide genuine cover/competition for places.
 

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Neil Warnock evidently thought they had a deal for Clyne. He doesn't sound too pleased.

http://www.espn.com/soccer/blog/tra...g-mull-future-of-liverpool-target-timo-werner

18.23 GMT: Neil Warnock is fuming. He thought Nathaniel Clyne was heading to Cardiff but the Liverpool man eventually moved on loan to Bournemouth. "I'm disappointed with Nathaniel Clyne and Liverpool. To see on TV he's gone to Bournemouth when I've been promised he's my player is for me a disgrace and a lack of class," Warnock said. Ouch.
 

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Neil Warnock evidently thought they had a deal for Clyne. He doesn't sound too pleased.

http://www.espn.com/soccer/blog/tra...g-mull-future-of-liverpool-target-timo-werner

18.23 GMT: Neil Warnock is fuming. He thought Nathaniel Clyne was heading to Cardiff but the Liverpool man eventually moved on loan to Bournemouth. "I'm disappointed with Nathaniel Clyne and Liverpool. To see on TV he's gone to Bournemouth when I've been promised he's my player is for me a disgrace and a lack of class," Warnock said. Ouch.
Another reason for the wanker to hate us :)
 

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ST/LW Timo Werner

CB/LB Nathan Aké

Ox in
Grujic in

Sturridge, Origi, Markovic, (Lallana), Moreno, Clyne Out

Outfield Squad complete.
 

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I caught Chelsea - Nottingham Forest yesterday and I was so impressed with Hudson-Odoi. Obviously a small sample, a cup game, Championship opposition and all that but he looked every bit the talent that caught the eye of biggest clubs, I can certainly see why Bayern are genuinely interested. Direct, tricky, confident, quick, strong, playing left, playing right, ultimately set up two goals with great crosses. I wish Liverpool signed such a winger as I think Shaqiri is much more of a playmaker than a direct winger and Mane could use some competition.
 

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I caught Chelsea - Nottingham Forest yesterday and I was so impressed with Hudson-Odoi. Obviously a small sample, a cup game, Championship opposition and all that but he looked every bit the talent that caught the eye of biggest clubs, I can certainly see why Bayern are genuinely interested. Direct, tricky, confident, quick, strong, playing left, playing right, ultimately set up two goals with great crosses. I wish Liverpool signed such a winger as I think Shaqiri is much more of a playmaker than a direct winger and Mane could use some competition.

He's a proper talent.
 

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Just the latest example of Chelsea's ludicrous transfer policy, buying Pulisic for so much money and this kid is just sitting there not getting a look in.
He'll go to Bayern be given a chance, light it up with them and be worth 100m by this time next year.
He only turned 18 a couple of months ago yet he's already made 7 appearances this season, 6 starts. He also plays in the same position as Chelsea's best player.

Leaving Sarri to go to Bayern would be a mistake. I can see why he'd be tempted to play in the Bundesliga (just like Brewster btw) but it's the wrong club to pick, surely?
 

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Just the latest example of Chelsea's ludicrous transfer policy, buying Pulisic for so much money and this kid is just sitting there not getting a look in.
He'll go to Bayern be given a chance, light it up with them and be worth 100m by this time next year.
Funnily enough Sancho is keeping Pulisic out the Dortmund team and who was keeping Sancho out the starting eleven for England at youth level, that’s right Hudson-Odoi. You couldn’t make it up could you lol
 

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Funnily enough Sancho is keeping Pulisic out the Dortmund team and who was keeping Sancho out the starting eleven for England at youth level, that’s right Hudson-Odoi. You couldn’t make it up could you lol
When was that? Sancho has been labelled as the biggest talent in that age group for years, I doubt anybody kept him out the team.

As an aside, England has some incredible talent coming through in the wide areas - Sancho, Odoi, Sessegnon, Gibbs-White, Nelson etc. If we can snag any of them at a reasonable price we should be all over it. Sessegnon is still the one that makes the most sense for me.

Also, the relative success of these players so far shows why we shouldn't be so afraid of giving Brewster some minutes, he's very much of the same calibre.
 
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Under 17s World Cup appearances
Hudson-Odoi 7 appearances
Sancho 3 appearances
I’d say Hudson-Odoi would’ve been keeping Sancho out the team if he’s made more appearances.

Agree on all three other points tho :well done:
 

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Under 17s World Cup appearances
Hudson-Odoi 7 appearances
Sancho 3 appearances
I’d say Hudson-Odoi would’ve been keeping Sancho out the team if he’s made more appearances.

Agree on all three other points tho :well done:
Sancho was recalled by Dortmund in the middle of the tournament. He was brilliant in the 3 games he was there for iirc.

Sancho knocked in 14 in 18 for England u17s, Hudson-Odoi 5 in 22 (transfermrkt) and I'd imagine Sancho set more goals up too though I don't have the stats. As good as Hudson-Odoi appears to be I don't think he's ever been more highly rated than Sancho.
 
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I think we need a backup LB that can also play centre-back right now..
Bayern are interested in world cup winner Lucas Hernandez from Atletico. He can play both but he would cost more than 70m (release clause) - so wouldn't make much sense for us.

Nathan Aké as a second choice LB and as fourth choice CB would be great IMO.
 

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I really think we should be in for De Ligt.

Matip, Gomez Lovren all get injured too much.I don't want to see Fabinho at CB ever, he's become vital to our midfield.
 
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Sancho was recalled by Dortmund in the middle of the tournament. He was brilliant in the 3 games he was there for iirc.

Sancho knocked in 14 in 18 for England u17s, Hudson-Odoi 5 in 22 (transfermrkt) and I'd imagine Sancho set more goals up too though I don't have the stats. As good as Hudson-Odoi appears to be I don't think he's ever been more highly rated than Sancho.
So what you're saying is that you could, in fact, make it up? :eh?:
 

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I really think we should be in for De Ligt.

Matip, Gomez Lovren all get injured too much.I don't want to see Fabinho at CB ever, he's become vital to our midfield.
Ake, as mentioned by the poster above you, would actually be a really sound shout. Good quality in two positions, and would allow us to move on both Matip (simply injured too much to rely on) and Moreno and upgrade both positions, depth-wise, at a stroke. Rarely injured, afaik. Not sure how much he would cost, £30-40m maybe (pure speculation on my part and am in ignorance about his contract situation). We also seem to have a good relationship with Bournemouth when it comes to transfers. Could get behind a move like that.

VVD & Joe are the first-choice CB pairing now for the next 6 or 7 years, Lovren and Ake backing them up is pretty strong, although I would certainly have an eye on replacing Lovren in subsequent windows as and when the opportunity arises.
 

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Yes ZB, Ake is a good shout and more realistic than De Ligt. Maybe we should have offered them £20m plus Solanke? One thing is without doubt, ILLOK would LOVE that signing.
 

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With Gomez able to cover RB and Aké able to cover LB it would also be no problem to have 5 senior CB in our squad.
 

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When assessing fringe players on the back of last night, you have to take into account lack of match fitness, the team being thrown together, and that they were alongside other fringe players.

But that said, the performances of many of them were still unacceptable and their attitude sucked.

We have been unlucky in who we've been drawn against in domestic cups, but it can't be said that our squad is equipped to compete on all fronts, because it doesn't.

The only season we've done ok in domestic cups under Klopp has been the season we didn't finish top 4.

We're a man down on two players for every position now, with only 19 outfield players, several players are injury prone (Lallana, Lovren, Gomez, Matip, even Henderson), whilst Sturridge, Origi and Moreno are huge drop offs on the first choices. Keita is not delivering and Shaqiri only seems to want to play when he's in a good 11.

It's great to see promising youngsters, but you don't win trophies on the back of them. They should be nurtured around the first team squad then loaned out to make them fully ready.

When the intense period comes again we will not sustain a title and PL challenge with this group.

We need to add to this squad in January or we are taking a huge risk.
 

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Considering we had what? Our 3rd/4th choice RB, 2nd/3rd choice LB and our 5th? 6th? 7th? Choice CBs for the majority of the game I think our defence actually coped better than it should have. Moreno at LB is still the only major concern for me. Maybe at CB we shouldn't have both Matip and Love an as they're good enough to be 3rd and 4th choice just both very injury prone.

What concerned me most was;

GK; Clear that Mignolet (although not terrible) is nothing like our first choice in playing style. Game was slowed down so much every time he was involved and team shape wasn't right. Need a more appropriate back up.

CM; Milner cannot be the CM with most defensive role. Keita should only be partnered with Fabinho, Henderson or Wijnaldum in a double pivot. Or one of those 3 as deepest in a midfield 3.

Attack; If Firmino, Salah, Mane and Ox are our first choice front 4 then with the possible exception of Lallana for Jones that was our 2nd choice attack last night. I know Origi scored and then started making himself a bit busier but he was mostly awful. Shaqiri doesn't have the individual quality to do it all alone but is good with better players around him. Sturridge should be a supersub only these days. Lallana wouldn't give much more based on recent seasons either. We desperately need to improve our second choices in attack. At least 1 or 2 good to great players.
 
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