Who would you buy?

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I’d buy that Clyne lad at Bournemouth. I’ve heard some lads on the forum raving about him, and I think he could turn us into Europe’s best side.
 

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I fully understand and respect the reasons why there will (most likely) be no incomings today, but in this proper title chase and CL run I do get a little nervous when I see Studge and Lallana coming on as attacking options.
Like you, I understand Klopp's decision (and I expected it, for the most part of the window) but the sight of the likes you mentioned doesn't really inspire belief. I have nothing against these two or Origi, now that we're talking about attacking options, they are nice lads but are all severely limited, the former two look like they are doing their best but their best is long gone behind them with their fitness. This will be a major challenge for Klopp, regardless of how this season pans out, and this lack of true depth in quality is one of the main two reasons why I believe Man City are still firm favourites for the title.
 

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So we terminated Markovics contract so that Fulham can have him on a free. Could that mean Fulham won't make it too 'complicated' for us to sign Ryan Sessegnon in the summer?
 

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No problem with one of them playing in the domestic cups but if Alisson gets injured we'd be f****d big time.

Think we need a +32 year old GK who always dreamt of signing for Liverpool no matter if its just to be a squad player.
Begovic is available. Apparently he's aid he would like to move to another Premier club and isn't bothered about being first choice.
 

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Good point. It's why Carroll was a better buy than Suarez.
Back than the Dutch league was a better league than today. Today it is a Mickey Mouse league. Players like de Ligt, de Jong and Lozano should be judged on their performances in the CL or internationals not if they are doing well in the league and so far Lozano did not do much in the CL with PSV. No way he is better than Mané, in fact, I don't want the little cry baby.
 

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I’m probably repeating myself - bit of dementia likely creeping in, plus day off and no game today...

The team and squad is of a high enough level that we don’t need to go and buy loads. Assuming everyone stays who we want to stay, I think we can get everything we need with a reasonable spend - the sort of money that is well within our means, even accounting for the large outlay on improved contracts to reward our great players and also keep them here. Something like this:

Striker - £60M
Timo Werner would be ideal. The fee is a pure guess. There were some reports he would go for much less, but I can’t see that. I know his contract is running down but lots of top teams would want him, so the money will need to be paid. He plays centrally or from the left. He scores goals. He has good pace. He is pretty direct. He is young and is about to come into the start of what should be some very productive prime years.

Is there a place here for him? Yes, of course! Four good players for three spots, no problem. And even if all four played, you could see Werner left, Mane right, Salah through the middle, and Firmino behind them.

We represent a very compelling project and we should be challenging for the Prem and in the latter stages of the CL for a few years here, under Klopp. Mind you, Bayern Munich, at the worst, challenge for the Bundesliga year in year out (usually they win it) and even if they are in a bit of a transition with renewing some older players, you can’t see them not being regulars at the sharp end of the CL. So it’s all up to the player and where he sees himself. If we don’t sign Werner, it needs to be someone at that sort of level, with some versatility too.

We’ve cleared the decks with the sales of Ings (fee to come) and Solanke. You would have to think Origi will follow, and when he does, that’s the fee near enough covered. Sturridge will likely leave too, which helps on the wages. A little clear out also makes space for Brewster to start to get some minutes here and there.

Central defender - £50M
Not sure who, but maybe Militao as he seems very highly rated. De Ligt would be great, but I can’t see us doing that sort of fee. We’ve also seen Tarkowski linked and I wouldn’t say no to that. Lovren and Matip are great quality for a third and fourth choice, but the injury record isn’t good enough, so I’d be happy enough to sell one, or even both, depending on incoming. But we need a third option to go with VVD and Gomez - high quality, and will see plenty of action. I think we will get at least £20M from the sale of Lovren or Matip to offset the cost of incoming.

Left Back - £20M
Moreno will be off. Not sure who we should get here. I remember the tall lad was mentioned a while ago, think it was Lloyd Kelly. I admit I haven’t seen him, but I am confident in our scouts, and if they like the cut of his jib, bring it on. I think I remember he could also cover central defence, so depending on what happened there, if we sold both Lovren and Matip, our options could be VVD, Gomez, Militao/Tarkowski and Kelly.

Beyond those three signings, I think Wilson should come back and replace Lallana.

Then we are looking at goalkeeper. As a mid ranking Prem goalie, Mignolet is a good age and quality for a number two for a top team. If he wants to leave to play elsewhere, fine. We would then need Heaton or someone like that. We have highly rated young keepers, but I’m not sure I want one of them coming in for Alisson at this stage. However, if that’s the way it goes, then I’ll back it, as the coaches see them day in and day out, and presumably they are coaching them to try to play the same sort of proactive goalkeeping style.

All five could be done for the usual sort of outlay, not the Coutinho-fee splurge we enjoyed last summer. The squad would be younger, the quality higher, the home grown quota beefed up, and it would all be financially doable.
I agree
This would leave us with:

GK: Alisson, Mignolet (if he stays) or experienced keeper e.g. Heaton, Grabara
RB: Alexander-Arnold, Militao, Camacho
RCB: Gomez, Militao, Hoever
LCB: Van Dijk, Lovren, Philips
LB: Robertson, Kelly, Lewis
CM: Fabinho, Henderson, Grujic
CM: Wijnaldum, Keita, Jones
CAM: Firmino, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Wilson
RW: Mane, Shaqiri, Wilson
LW: Werner, Mane, Oxlade-Chamberlain
ST: Salah, Werner, Brewster

I think the signings will cost:
Militao (£50m)
Kelly(£15m)
Werner (£50m)
Back up keeper (FREE or <£5m)

In terms of who should be going out:
Sturridge (FREE)
Moreno (FREE)
Matip (£20m)
Origi (£20m)
Lallana (£10m)

Therefore, it will cost approximately £65 million extra to bring in the rest of the players, which hopefully can be funded by a PL and CL double title win
 

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That would leave us short at LB still and also low on creativity in midfield (still).

I'd argue for signings like Sessegnon and Havertz in addition.

I know Edwards has a growing reputation for extracting maximum value from our sales but £40m for Matip and Origi? We'll be lucky to get more than half of that.
 

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You can make a decent argument that we don't need to do very much this coming summer, especially if the likes of Lallana and Milner are given another year, which I expect to be the case. However, I see a significant churn having to occur before the beginning of the following season. Mignolet, Sturridge, Origi, Milner, Lallana, Lovren, Moreno, Matip are all players who if they get kept on this year would be very likely candidates to move on that summer. That is a lot of bodies to replace in a short amount of time, and so even if we think we are relatively ok for next year we should already be thinking about how we're going to replace those guys and start that process this summer, even if it does not coincide with the exit of the player we're long term looking to replace,
 

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That would leave us short at LB still and also low on creativity in midfield (still).

I'd argue for signings like Sessegnon and Havertz in addition.

I know Edwards has a growing reputation for extracting maximum value from our sales but £40m for Matip and Origi? We'll be lucky to get more than half of that.
Havertz and Sessegnon are good shouts.

Edwards is a genius. I think we will up to £20 million for Origi as Wolves did agree to buy him for more than that price.
Matip is also 27 so could command at least a £15 million fee.
 

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Havertz and Sessegnon are good shouts.

Edwards is a genius. I think we will up to £20 million for Origi as Wolves did agree to buy him for more than that price.
Matip is also 27 so could command at least a £15 million fee.
Come the summer Matip will be 28 with only one year left on his contract, I think. We'll do well to get £10m for him. Origi will similarly be entering the last year of his deal won't he? Again, can't see us getting much more than £10m for him in those circumstances (particularly since he's not home grown).
 

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I think we are getting paid for Ings this summer, and the Solanke fee should come into the pot towards the players we need to recruit. We are well placed to get what we need and move the whole thing up a little notch again.

If we are selling one CB and bringing someone else in, then I don’t care if it is Lovren or Matip, and if Lovren is more in demand, or would fetch a higher fee, he can be the one to make way for another player e.g. Militao.
 

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Gomez is the new Sturridge when it comes to injuries. Lovrens never played more than 7 consecutive games for us. Time for someone new.
 

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It's still hardly a fair comparison.

Unless you equate a fracture sustained via contact with chronic soft tissue injuries.
 

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You can make a decent argument that we don't need to do very much this coming summer, especially if the likes of Lallana and Milner are given another year, which I expect to be the case. However, I see a significant churn having to occur before the beginning of the following season. Mignolet, Sturridge, Origi, Milner, Lallana, Lovren, Moreno, Matip are all players who if they get kept on this year would be very likely candidates to move on that summer. That is a lot of bodies to replace in a short amount of time, and so even if we think we are relatively ok for next year we should already be thinking about how we're going to replace those guys and start that process this summer, even if it does not coincide with the exit of the player we're long term looking to replace,
Id be hugely disappointed if we wasted any more time on waiting for Lallana to regain fitness and form again. His time has come and passed here.
 

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Like Eriksen would pick us ahead Of Real Madrid and Spurs selling him to us. Bigger chance that Messi will sign for us.

We will get Wilson back next season. He is already the best player in the Championship.
 

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https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/spo...ws/timo-werner-nabil-fekir-liverpool-15766815

Some interesting names on there.. in addition to your obvious ones in Werner, Fekir etc. Fraser, Guerreiro and Eriksen wouldn't be bad shouts! I'm sure we were in for Eriksen before he went to Spurs.
I think Guerreiro would do very well as our replacement for Moreno.
Very versatile too so can cover a lot of positions.
He may want to start ahead of Robbo, and if he performs well enough he could, but his versatility means that he will have enough games.
 

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You can make a decent argument that we don't need to do very much this coming summer, especially if the likes of Lallana and Milner are given another year, which I expect to be the case. However, I see a significant churn having to occur before the beginning of the following season. Mignolet, Sturridge, Origi, Milner, Lallana, Lovren, Moreno, Matip are all players who if they get kept on this year would be very likely candidates to move on that summer. That is a lot of bodies to replace in a short amount of time, and so even if we think we are relatively ok for next year we should already be thinking about how we're going to replace those guys and start that process this summer, even if it does not coincide with the exit of the player we're long term looking to replace,
THis was a concern i flagged earlier in the year.

Having a number of players whose contracts are expiring, or have asked to leave for more playing time is one thing (and possibly quite awkward in sourcing replacements) but there is also the added risk that other players then enter a phase of now wishing to move (perhaps we get approached by another club that makes them an irresistable offer etc) or a serious injury to someone else in the team and cover is needed.

Looking at the recent spending projections and our pattern since Klopp took over, we are obviously looking to concentrate on a small number of deals each summer. This becomes harder to do over the next couple of summers unless our youngsters can step up and earn a squad place and even fight for the first team spot (or one of our star players leaves for a very large sum of money that we then re-invest like we did with Coutinho).

I think it is clear we will be looking for forward options - particularly for the left as cover for Mane. Also left back (I havent read anything to indicate Lewis is ready for anythng more than 3rd choice yet.)
Not sure a creative midfielder coming in is necessary. Ox will hopefully be fit, Jones will be a year older and hopefully have made a step up - it's unlikely Klopp will want to put anything in his way. We already have Shaqiri. We need to get more from Keita as he and Fabinho can be creative enough to unlock teams.
 

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I think Guerreiro would do very well as our replacement for Moreno.
Very versatile too so can cover a lot of positions.
He may want to start ahead of Robbo, and if he performs well enough he could, but his versatility means that he will have enough games.
There was a lot of interest in Guerreiro from us before his last move i think (if its the same player) - his manager even claiming we had made an offer which i think we denied.
 

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Like Eriksen would pick us ahead Of Real Madrid and Spurs selling him to us. Bigger chance that Messi will sign for us.

We will get Wilson back next season. He is already the best player in the Championship.
What an utterly daft statement. If Hazard moves to Real (which has been talked about for an age) there is a great opportunity to get Eriksen as Real won't go for both.

Spurs will sell to rivals, they just extract a good price. This has been proven for the past 15 years.

I expect if Poch goes in the summer an exodus will happen. Son and Eriksen would be at the top of my shopping lists if they ever came available.
 

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What an utterly daft statement. If Hazard moves to Real (which has been talked about for an age) there is a great opportunity to get Eriksen as Real won't go for both.

Spurs will sell to rivals, they just extract a good price. This has been proven for the past 15 years.

I expect if Poch goes in the summer an exodus will happen. Son and Eriksen would be at the top of my shopping lists if they ever came available.
There is a rumour Barcelona also want Eriksen but I’d expect they’d need to sell before they could afford him and if Poch goes to manure he’ll be after him but I agree, Liverpool would still be in witha good chance of getting him.

Son would be my number one priority if he even showed a slight inclination he wanted out.
 

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I’d buy that Clyne lad at Bournemouth. I’ve heard some lads on the forum raving about him, and I think he could turn us into Europe’s best side.
Ever had a small chip on your car windscreen turn into a whole window crack when you next hit a speed bump or pothole?

Ever heard the phrase, straw that broke the camels back?

I'm sure you been close to the latter with me at times, but the point is that very small things can turn into much bigger problems.

Success and failure are two sides of a very fine line. You do everything you can to make sure you have no weak spots, no vulnerabilities, no chinks in your armour, because small things can be the difference.

Our defence has become much more vulnerable in January, since we've had defensive injuries. One weak spot has rippled out into the rest of the defence and indeed the team.

There is absolutely no doubt that Clyne is a better full back than Milner and Henderson. It's a real insult to him to say otherwise, when the lad is a specialist who has played for England there.

Milner really struggled against Palace and Henderson was unconvincing defensively against Leicester. Fabinho is clearly needed in midfield, given that the dropped points in January were when he didn't start.

Making do isn't good enough when we pretty much need everything to go right to win the league. Saying everything will be ok when everyone's fit is ridiculous when dropped points in the meantime could be the points that lose you the title in the final reckoning. Never mind that Gomez, Matip and Lovren have considerable injury prone histories.

You don't want makeshift full backs alongside ever changing central defensive partnerships.

Do people not realise what a huge monkey LFC has on its back? 29 years without a league title, one domestic cup in thirteen years, loads of near misses in the past decade that give very real examples of how an inch can be the difference between success and failure.

Allowing a player who'd played as well as he did against United, a player we'd paid for 15 months whilst injured and regaining fitness, to leave when we know so many of our defenders are injury prone, was totally the wrong move.

Saying the lad would be disruptive if kept against his will is an even bigger insult on his professionalism and respect for the club.

So you can mock those who say that Clyne being allowed to leave was the wrong move, with your facetious remarks.

But the reality is that we'd be stronger now if we'd kept him and it is not hindsight to say so, it was obvious at the time.