Who would you buy?

[Iluvatar]

He has a point though hasn't he? We should have kept Clyney at the end of the day. He is decent cover for both sides.

Funny isnt it the first second Clyne gets fit Klopp ships him out.. Maybe just maybe he doesn’t fancy him for one reason or another.. Read between the lines..

 

[redfanman]

Can folks give a rest to the long term outlook? Yeah, "we need to do this and we need to do that in the summer".

Let's pray this is not going to be the 3rd winter window we'll end up blaming for ending up 2nd.

A chance to go for the title comes once in a blue moon, or for us, 3 times in 25+ years. We fucked up in 08/09 but we were under the 2 tyrants who didn't have or want to invest a dime. And when we almost won it in 2014, we fucked up under Rodgers and this regime with insufficient cover for Henderson's injury which we knew about before end of Jan 2014. Granted we couldn't have predicted red cards but the MF overall did not have cover then.

It's all great if the manager decides that a young player like Camacho is sufficient cover, but he's not playing him. Thus, the club, manager, whoever, should have taken action this Winter window.

It's possible that Clyne wouldnt have played against Palace anyway, with Klopp wanting Milner there instead. The only game we've played where he may have played with certainty was the leicester game because Milner wasnt available, and our failure to win that game wasnt really down to us not having a regular right back there.

There was no need to take action in the winter window. Gomez was seen as being due back shortly, Trent was available until after the brighton game and we had Milner and Fabinho fit. Camacho will be an option there against teams that are not as strong on that flank as Leicester. Panic buying in January probably leaves you with a Kronkamp signing that you then cant get rid and cant play - and yet people constantly moan when we still have the likes of Lallana and Markovic on the books.

 

[LFC-Orlando]

It's possible that Clyne wouldnt have played against Palace anyway, with Klopp wanting Milner there instead. The only game we've played where he may have played with certainty was the leicester game because Milner wasnt available, and our failure to win that game wasnt really down to us not having a regular right back there.

There was no need to take action in the winter window. Gomez was seen as being due back shortly, Trent was available until after the brighton game and we had Milner and Fabinho fit. Camacho will be an option there against teams that are not as strong on that flank as Leicester. Panic buying in January probably leaves you with a Kronkamp signing that you then cant get rid and cant play - and yet people constantly moan when we still have the likes of Lallana and Markovic on the books.

Wasn't talking about buying "for the future" in Jan.
When you're down an average of 3 defenders since Christmas, and still have 16-23 games to play in the PL and CL it's a crisis.
And when you have to play Hendo in RB and you lose Fabinho from your MF cause you're playing him as a CB, well, it's a mess.

If Clyne had to go to get a ton of minutes (or for us to get a few extra million for Solanke) great. It was a great move, no doubt.
But why didn't we go get a RB or CB? On loan or on perm.

 

[Limiescouse]

But why didn't we go get a RB or CB? On loan or on perm.

Because buying a CB of the quality that is worth our while is not like buying new shoes off Amazon?

 

[LFC-Orlando]

Because buying a CB of the quality that is worth our while is not like buying new shoes off Amazon?

No, really?

I don't get it. We accepted the mediocrity of Klavan and Matip, as back up CB's and we can't find another one like that for half or a full season?

Same for RB. We'd have kept Clyne, had he not voiced his desire to start every week. Same with Moreno as our back up LB. We have mediocre back-up players in many positions.

Why leave ourselves without cover and thus have to play out of positions players? Oh, and I get the need to train together from summer on. But when you are down men, you are left with kids, who are not preferred to older, out of position players.

Let's just hope Milner and all our other older, versatile players can provide cover.

 

[Iluvatar]

No, really?

I don't get it. We accepted the mediocrity of Klavan and Matip, as back up CB's and we can't find another one like that for half or a full season?

Same for RB. We'd have kept Clyne, had he not voiced his desire to start every week. Same with Moreno as our back up LB. We have mediocre back-up players in many positions.

Why leave ourselves without cover and thus have to play out of positions players? Oh, and I get the need to train together from summer on. But when you are down men, you are left with kids, who are not preferred to older, out of position players.

Let's just hope Milner and all our other older, versatile players can provide cover.

You are looking so so myopic. It's the same for every single club not just ours. You simply don't stock pile players in case of a "crisis" irrespective of what our anti-FSG man would have you believe.

City have basically a sovereign wealth to buy whoever they want yet..

If they get an injury to Fernandinho (arguably their most important player) their next player for that spot is Stones (center back), Delph (a no.8) or Gundogan (a no.8).
They have Delph (a central midfielder) playing left back for fucks sake since Mendy got injured.
When Walker got injured Laporte (a center half) was playing right back.

It's just a complete and utter fallacy that you have to have an elite back up for every position. You don't it's not realistic, what you have are flexible players who can do a job for the short period you have several injuries to your core positional player.

I guess Pep isn't being backed by his owners??

 

[redfanman]

No, really?

I don't get it. We accepted the mediocrity of Klavan and Matip, as back up CB's and we can't find another one like that for half or a full season?

Same for RB. We'd have kept Clyne, had he not voiced his desire to start every week. Same with Moreno as our back up LB. We have mediocre back-up players in many positions.

Why leave ourselves without cover and thus have to play out of positions players? Oh, and I get the need to train together from summer on. But when you are down men, you are left with kids, who are not preferred to older, out of position players.

Let's just hope Milner and all our other older, versatile players can provide cover.

Klopp has already said that Camacho would have been given opportunities if we had played a team weaker than Leicester down that flank.

We have mediocre players in back up positions exactly because we brought them into the club and cant get rid of them - and now you are proposing we bring in..... mediocrity.

Personally, i dont think Klavan and Matip are mediocre. It's much harder to find CBs of that quality at this time of the season - they were both summer signings and would be starting regularly for a good side - or one that needs its best players and cant themselves replace them during this window.

Once you've signed them, then what? you have someone on the books that takes up a space that you Klopp was intending to use for blooding youngsters or to sign a proper upgrade who you may not even want - i thought we learnt this lesson under Rafa when he brought in Josemi and then Kronkamp and Degen.

Milner is back this weekend. Fabinho might be available to start this weekend. Trent should be back in the next week or two. Why do we need to sign a mediocre back up?

 

[Kopstar]

Any out of contract players that we could sign are not going to have the match-fitness, quality or tactical familiarity of any of our existing back up options even if that means playing senior players out of position or promoting from the academy (eg Hoever). Even getting emergency cover in during the window would have taken them some time to get up to speed by which time Virgil's served his suspension, Lovren, Trent and perhaps even Gomez are fit...so what's the point?

The only signings that could have made sense would have been those we were looking to bring in during the summer in any case. If they're not available in January then I don't see much point in signing anyone else.

 

[Mascot88]

‘I love Klopp, but I wish he’d go into the market and buy players to fill short term needs, and be willing to let lads rot in the reserves for the good of the team’ makes about as much sense as ‘I love Mourinho but wish he’d play attractive attacking football’ or ‘I love Hodgson but I wish he wasn’t such a fucking bewildered owl’

 

[lfc.8]

If you asked me two or three months ago what was the part of this Liverpool side that I thought was in need of upgrading, I'd have said "midfield". Right now, with Fabinho and Wijnaldum impressing in double pivot, Henderson, Milner and Keita providing options, Firmino playing as an attacking midfielder/no. 10/second striker more often than not and Oxlade-Chamberlain hopefully returning fully fit ahead of the next season, I'd say that it's the defence that needs upgrading, not because of distinct lack of quality but their fitness that is unreliable, to put it mildly.

I wonder if there are any regrets with Klopp over not moving forward with signing a centre back he will probably sign this summer. I think he put most of his eggs in the Joe Gomez-returning-in-six-weeks basket and it backfired, especially with Lovren and Matip also being very prone to injuries. That said, it's a big question whether any new signing would have been able to slot in seamlessly in a team where centre backs need to be as close to complete football players as possible. Catch 22 situation... I hate injuries.

I see more upside in midfield to develop and improve. Against the better sides we don't always fear that well. We've got some good players but not really that calibre of player who's world class or close to it. Fabinho might well prove to be one. Keita possibly but is not firing at the moment.

In defence we're sorted with Alisson, Robertson and van Dijk. Gomez has shown enough. Alexander-Arnold hasn't always convinced but he's progressing. Better options are needed though especially when there's injuries or rotation. Sell one of Matip or Lovren then look at perhaps one of the following: de Ligt, Upamecano, Militao, Koulibaly, Skriniar, Alderweireld.

Which players we might move for and buy I'm not sure but an injection of a few top players would really help to round out this squad. The club has more than a few expendable players we can sell, raise funds and invest.

 

[Anfield rd Dreamer]

When thinking about who to buy this summer I think we need to look at the strength of the current side. Got me thinking how people would rate our current options. It's hard to do as it's arguable which formation is our plan A these days. I think going forward we may see the 4411 or 4231 we've been using more frequently as our more regular formation with 433 a more occasional plan B and 442 as a plan C so I'll concentrate on 4231/4411. I've tried to take into account if there's realistic potential for improvement with the current personnel too.

Keeper;
Starter: Alisson 90% currently potential 95%.
Back up: Mignolet 75% currently potential 75%.
Emergency cover: Kelleher 60% currently potential 85%(?).

Only concern is how poor a fit Mignolet is tactically. We could have a lower quality keeper who plays the right way and actually improve. If we could find a keeper who is the right fit and as good as/better than Mignolet we would be flying.

Center Backs;
Starters: Van Dijk and Gomez 90% currently potential 95%.
Cover: Lovren and Matip 85% currently potential 85%.
Emergency cover: Fabinho and Hoever 80% currently potential 90%.

Quality wise we are flying here especially if Hoever keeps developing. But with Gomez, Lovren and Matip all missing significant game time something may have to change here sooner or later.

Full Backs;
Starters: Alexander-Arnold and Robertson 85% currently potential 95%.
Cover: Clyne, Gomez and Moreno 75% currently potential 75%.
Emergency cover: Camacho, Hoever, Lewis, Fabinho, Henderson, Milner, Ox and Shaqiri 75% currently potential 85% (?).

Clyne and Moreno are probably off and a lot of our emergency cover is only appropriate for the right. If Milner leaves too the left is looking very bare. Need a senior player comfortable at LB whether that's a left sided Gomez type like Romagnoli or someone who can play LB and left wing like Guerreiro or Sessegnon. On the right we might cope but could do with Camacho kicking on or the new left sided guy able to play right back too.

Centre Mid;
Starters (arguably): Wijnaldum and Fabinho 85% currently potential 90%.
Cover: Keita, Henderson, Milner 80% currently potential 90%.
Emergency cover: Alexander-Arnold, Matip, Grujic, Ox 70% currently potential 85%.

If Keita gets up to speed there is no need to change anything in this area. If anything we might have too many numbers if Milner doesn't leave and Grujic comes back.

Wings;
Starters: Ox and Mane(?) 85% currently potential 90%.
Cover: Shaqiri, Origi and Keita 75% currently potential 80%.
Emergency cover: Salah, Firmino, Moreno, Lallana 80% currently potential 80%.

Hard to know what's the thinking here. It's the one area on the pitch I'm not sure I'm happy with the starting choices with Ox and Shaqiri both being good but not great to play on one side whilst Mane starts the other. Keita and Origi shouldn't really be options in this formation and as great as Salah is he's needed up front. None of the emergency options should really be played wide in this formation. Maybe Wilson and/or Kent may return and offer something but I think we need to improve an option or two. Maybe Camacho could be an option? A Sessegnon type to cover LB and wing? A Werner type?

Central attacking mid;
Starter: Firmino 85% currently potential 90%.
Cover: Ox and Shaqiri 85% currently potential 95%.
Emergency cover: Keita, Lallana, Sturridge, Wijnaldum, Mane 70% currently potential 85%.

After the failure to land Fekir who I think would have been the starter here I don't think there's a hole anymore. Firmino backed up by Ox, Shaqiri, Mane and the likes? It's looking strong in numbers, quality and tactical fit. Can imagine Wilson replacing Lallana as an option here too.

Centre Forward;
Starter: Salah 95% currently potential 99%(?).
Cover: Firmino 85% currently potential 90%.
Emergency cover: Sturridge, Origi and Brewster 70% currently potential (Brewster only) 85%(+?).

For me I think this highlights where we are weak and strong. CF is great if Firmino (great choice) or Salah (insanely good choice) are being picked but Firmino should really be starting in the hole so someone else should be brought in. It's not like that player would get lots of game time at CF though so if they can start wide sometimes too that would be best. Werner or someone like him would make a lot of sense.

Sorry for such a long post.

 

[Mascot88]

I see more upside in midfield to develop and improve. Against the better sides we don't always fear that well. We've got some good players but not really that calibre of player who's world class or close to it. Fabinho might well prove to be one. Keita possibly but is not firing at the moment.

In defence we're sorted with Alisson, Robertson and van Dijk. Gomez has shown enough. Alexander-Arnold hasn't always convinced but he's progressing. Better options are needed though especially when there's injuries or rotation. Sell one of Matip or Lovren then look at perhaps one of the following: de Ligt, Upamecano, Militao, Koulibaly, Skriniar, Alderweireld.

Which players we might move for and buy I'm not sure but an injection of a few top players would really help to round out this squad. The club has more than a few expendable players we can sell, raise funds and invest.

One thing I’m looking forward to is that even if we finish second, we’ll be investing from a position of strength.

Our previous three second placed finishes were marked by implosions. It will be different this year. We can build on what we have rather than watch it drift off to Real and Barca.

I’d expect the club to net about eighty million in sales, and add to that to make a tidy war chest.

I know what I’d be doing, but I think Klopp has to answer a few questions regarding young players, before we get a sense of his plans?

- is Camacho ready to deputise the right back position?
- is Harry Wilson ready to be a squad player?
- does Ben Woodburn have a future here?
- is Hoever ready to be an option?
- is Trent’s long term future at Right Back?
- what state will Rhian Brewster be in?

Klopp won’t spend money if he thinks there is a kid ready to break through.

 

[Anfield rd Dreamer]

Realistic business I see happening this summer;

Mignolet and Karius leave a second choice keeper brought in.

Matip potentially moving on in which case a CB who can play LB brought in.

Moreno leaving and someone who can play more than one position but definitely a good LB option brought in.

Milner being allowed an emotional return to Leeds with Keita moved back into CM permanently to replace his role there.

Lallana allowed to move on and Wilson given a role in the squad strengthening our options in the three roles behind the striker.

Sturridge allowed to move on with his place in the squad taken by Brewster and other kids.

Origi allowed to leave and someone brought in who is a good strong option wide and centre forward.

Finally if a real good opportunity presents itself such as Rabiot on a free we make it work and find space for them.

Makes a minimum of 3 incoming possible CB and Possible if great deals come along to take advantage of. Generally not much business though quality not quantity.

 

[RedForever2014]

Funny really.

Since we released Clyne on a loan it’s been a disaster, we’ve only increased our lead by one point.

We were 7 points ahead when we loaned Clyne, so have reduced our lead by two points.

The Lovren/Matip thing is a totally reasonable gripe, and you are not the only person who airs it. In hindsight we would have probably been better off this year by keeping Klavan and moving on Matip, and that move would have probably given Klavan an expectation of enough games to satisfy him. It probably didnt need hindsight to figure that out either given Matip's history of frailty. However, in saying all that it is important to realise that Matip is actually the one of our CB corps who is most likely to be available for the Bayern game, so again, this obvious looking solution wouldnt necessarily solve the immediate issue we're facing.

The frustration with you and your posting is that you connect it to totally unrelated issues like the loss of Clyne. It's like a wife using me not picking my jeans up off the bedroom floor to have a go at me for something I said 3 weeks ago.

The issues are wholly connected.

Last summer we had 9 defenders at one point - Clyne, TAA, Lovren, VVD, Gomez, Matip, Klavan, Moreno, Robertson.

Personally I felt we lacked quality in that bunch, and I was worried about so many of them being injury prone. I advocated selling two centre backs and buying De Ligt, but thought that at least we had bodies who could always form a decent defence until VVD's guidance.

When we sold Klavan, our decision and coincidentally after we failed to move on more desirable players to exit, it felt like a way of trimming wages and getting a few quid. I felt that a player who'd done ok was worth keeping for the season we finally hoped to win the title.

Then we loaned Clyne, a player who not only would surely be better at right back than a midfielder, and/or if we end up with a midfielder at centre back, but a player who could probably do a good job at right sided centre back alongside VVD if required.

So we went from 9 defenders to 7.

Now we always seem to have two or three defensive injuries, so there's a big difference between 9 and 7 in terms of who you can then field as a specialist defensive unit.

Moving midfielders isn't the answer when your whole beefed up midfield squad was to offset the issues last season when fatigue and injuries affected us there.

Sorry, but loaning Clyne was, like Klavan, a questionable move.

I know Klopp doesn't bullshit, I know he cares about players as humans more than most managers.

Can you explain how can you predict an injury crisis? Gomez fractured a bone in a tackle, that could happen at any time to any player...

Because Gomez, Matip and Lovren always spend large chunks of any season injured.

If he hadn't broken his leg he'd probably have gotten injured due to something else. He missed the end of last season just from jumping up and down in an England match.

Besides there's a phrase, accident prone and bone resilience varies person to person. Who is to say that Gomez suffered a break that another player wouldn't. His slow bone healing certainly suggests that.

Everyone on here is entitled to their own level of satisfaction with how LFC is being run.

My view remains that the club has made mistakes, whether in judgement or due to financial reasons, and has left us with a squad that could yet be undermined because of it.

I really hope we win the league, it's not in my interests for us not to, I wouldn't get pleasure from saying I told you so.

But personally I think injuries will do for us, and I think we'll bottle it in the end.

But if we don't win the league this season we never will and that for me will, quite rightly, start to make those players who bought into this project, have justifiable concerns.

Frankly, if any of Alisson, VVD, Salah, Bobby or Mane decided they'd have a better chance of consistently winning things elsewhere I'd agree with them and wish them well.

 

[SBYM]

Frankly, if any of Alisson, VVD, Salah, Bobby or Mane decided they'd have a better chance of consistently winning things elsewhere I'd agree with them and wish them well.

What a coincidence...

Many on here feel exactly the same way about your posting.

 

[Alright Now]

We were 7 points ahead when we loaned Clyne, so have reduced our lead by two points.



The issues are wholly connected.

Last summer we had 9 defenders at one point - Clyne, TAA, Lovren, VVD, Gomez, Matip, Klavan, Moreno, Robertson.

Personally I felt we lacked quality in that bunch, and I was worried about so many of them being injury prone. I advocated selling two centre backs and buying De Ligt, but thought that at least we had bodies who could always form a decent defence until VVD's guidance.

When we sold Klavan, our decision and coincidentally after we failed to move on more desirable players to exit, it felt like a way of trimming wages and getting a few quid. I felt that a player who'd done ok was worth keeping for the season we finally hoped to win the title.

Then we loaned Clyne, a player who not only would surely be better at right back than a midfielder, and/or if we end up with a midfielder at centre back, but a player who could probably do a good job at right sided centre back alongside VVD if required.

So we went from 9 defenders to 7.

Now we always seem to have two or three defensive injuries, so there's a big difference between 9 and 7 in terms of who you can then field as a specialist defensive unit.

Moving midfielders isn't the answer when your whole beefed up midfield squad was to offset the issues last season when fatigue and injuries affected us there.

Sorry, but loaning Clyne was, like Klavan, a questionable move.



Because Gomez, Matip and Lovren always spend large chunks of any season injured.

If he hadn't broken his leg he'd probably have gotten injured due to something else. He missed the end of last season just from jumping up and down in an England match.

Besides there's a phrase, accident prone and bone resilience varies person to person. Who is to say that Gomez suffered a break that another player wouldn't. His slow bone healing certainly suggests that.

Everyone on here is entitled to their own level of satisfaction with how LFC is being run.

My view remains that the club has made mistakes, whether in judgement or due to financial reasons, and has left us with a squad that could yet be undermined because of it.

I really hope we win the league, it's not in my interests for us not to, I wouldn't get pleasure from saying I told you so.

But personally I think injuries will do for us, and I think we'll bottle it in the end.

But if we don't win the league this season we never will and that for me will, quite rightly, start to make those players who bought into this project, have justifiable concerns.

Frankly, if any of Alisson, VVD, Salah, Bobby or Mane decided they'd have a better chance of consistently winning things elsewhere I'd agree with them and wish them well.

Given your unchanging views no matter our performance or standing, perhaps you should apply that last paragraph to yourself too.

 

[SBYM]

'if we don't win the league this season we never will'...

fmd

 

[sms1986]

People can mock and ridicule, but we're the club that never wins anything, so we all clearly know exactly what you need to win trophies and the clubs that win them don't.

We’re Everton?!

 

[SBYM]

‘I love Klopp, but I wish he’d go into the market and buy players to fill short term needs, and be willing to let lads rot in the reserves for the good of the team’ makes about as much sense as ‘I love Mourinho but wish he’d play attractive attacking football’ or ‘I love Hodgson but I wish he wasn’t such a fucking bewildered owl’

hahahahahahahaaaaa!!!!

 

[sms1986]

We were 7 points ahead when we loaned Clyne, so have reduced our lead by two points.



The issues are wholly connected.

Last summer we had 9 defenders at one point - Clyne, TAA, Lovren, VVD, Gomez, Matip, Klavan, Moreno, Robertson.

Personally I felt we lacked quality in that bunch, and I was worried about so many of them being injury prone. I advocated selling two centre backs and buying De Ligt, but thought that at least we had bodies who could always form a decent defence until VVD's guidance.

When we sold Klavan, our decision and coincidentally after we failed to move on more desirable players to exit, it felt like a way of trimming wages and getting a few quid. I felt that a player who'd done ok was worth keeping for the season we finally hoped to win the title.

Then we loaned Clyne, a player who not only would surely be better at right back than a midfielder, and/or if we end up with a midfielder at centre back, but a player who could probably do a good job at right sided centre back alongside VVD if required.

So we went from 9 defenders to 7.

Now we always seem to have two or three defensive injuries, so there's a big difference between 9 and 7 in terms of who you can then field as a specialist defensive unit.

Moving midfielders isn't the answer when your whole beefed up midfield squad was to offset the issues last season when fatigue and injuries affected us there.

Sorry, but loaning Clyne was, like Klavan, a questionable move.



Because Gomez, Matip and Lovren always spend large chunks of any season injured.

If he hadn't broken his leg he'd probably have gotten injured due to something else. He missed the end of last season just from jumping up and down in an England match.

Besides there's a phrase, accident prone and bone resilience varies person to person. Who is to say that Gomez suffered a break that another player wouldn't. His slow bone healing certainly suggests that.

Everyone on here is entitled to their own level of satisfaction with how LFC is being run.

My view remains that the club has made mistakes, whether in judgement or due to financial reasons, and has left us with a squad that could yet be undermined because of it.

I really hope we win the league, it's not in my interests for us not to, I wouldn't get pleasure from saying I told you so.

But personally I think injuries will do for us, and I think we'll bottle it in the end.

But if we don't win the league this season we never will and that for me will, quite rightly, start to make those players who bought into this project, have justifiable concerns.

Frankly, if any of Alisson, VVD, Salah, Bobby or Mane decided they'd have a better chance of consistently winning things elsewhere I'd agree with them and wish them well.

We’ll consistently be title challengers for the next few seasons barring some sort of massive collapse.

 

[RedForever2014]

In other news seems like Higuaín is proving the theory on here that January loan signings are a waste of time.

 

[Alright Now]

In other news seems like Higuaín is proving the theory on here that January loan signings are a waste of time.

In other news, Clyne-led Bournemouth 0 Cardiff 2

 

[Iluvatar]

What a coincidence...

Many on here feel exactly the same way about your posting.

Its like hes become a parody of himself, bet he’s the type as a dad he is the banker at Monopoly and steals money to beat his 7 year old daughter and then gloats how she should sort her life out.

 

[SBYM]

Ye...everyone on here thinks January signings are shite after the Virgil van Dijk bust.

 

[Alright Now]

In other news seems like Higuaín is proving the theory on here that January loan signings are a waste of time.

How much of a digger do you think they’ll take on Morata?

 

[Limiescouse]

Then we loaned Clyne, a player who not only would surely be better at right back than a midfielder, and/or if we end up with a midfielder at centre back, but a player who could probably do a good job at right sided centre back alongside VVD if required.

You keep ignoring that when Milner and Clyne were both available, Klopp picked Milner. So fundamental to your gripe is a "truth" you have created out of thin air that is not consistent with Klopp's view of the players.

You also keep ignoring that our issues are currently at CB not at RB. Unless you imagine Clyne filling in at CB whether or not he is here plays no role in how we go about addressing that issue for the Bayern game.

 

[redfanman]

In other news seems like Higuaín is proving the theory on here that January loan signings are a waste of time.

Yeah, absolute beast of a CB.

 

[LFC-Orlando]

@Limiescouse Clyne played well against Manc after so many months out.

I'm not saying we should have kept him if he's not in Klopp's plans. The RB position should have cover and we needed to buy someone. Just like the CB position needed another back up.

We did not act, End of story.

 

[Limiescouse]

@Limiescouse Clyne played well against Manc after so many months out.

I'm not saying we should have kept him if he's not in Klopp's plans. The RB position should have cover and we needed to buy someone. Just like the CB position needed another back up.

We did not act, End of story.

He did play well, yet even after that was still considered 4th choice. That speaks to the cover we already have at the position. CB is a different issue. My main objection is using the exit of Clyne to speak with exasperation about our failings with respect to our CBs.

 

[RedForever2014]

He did play well, yet even after that was still considered 4th choice. That speaks to the cover we already have at the position. CB is a different issue. My main objection is using the exit of Clyne to speak with exasperation about our failings with respect to our CBs.

No way was Clyne worse than Hendo or Milner at right back. Clyne was the second best right back at the club.

Fabinho can't be cited given that we never use him there.

In a few weeks time we might find ourselves in the position where Clyne at centre back would be better than the options available by then.