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Not really, at least I haven't seen him play on the flanks, and I've seen a decent bit of his performances. He's not the kind of tricky forward, he's and out-and-out goalscorer. I doubt any club that gets him will do it with playing him on the flanks in mind.
That's the last time I rely on ubermick's scouting ;-)

I also have a bit of a thing for Luka Jovic, and his versatility - mainly a striker but can play across the front line - makes him ideal.
 

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It's a strange player to go that far out on a limb for. When I heard about this a while back I assumed it was an end of contract type deal that would enable them to get a very good player under market value. But they are choosing to smash their transfer record for a part LB part CB by activating his release clause. I don't get it.

Is there any word on what they view him as? A LB or CB?
Surely a Center back?

Kimmich - Pavard - Hernandez - Alaba

Is a fucking tasty backline. Id argue 2nd best in Europe.
 

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It is quite funny seeing reports of Bayern going after Hernandez for €85 million and chasing Hudson-Odoi, Werner etc etc only weeks after Kovac bemoaned the fact that we spent a bit of money last window.
 

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It is quite funny seeing reports of Bayern going after Hernandez for €85 million and chasing Hudson-Odoi, Werner etc etc only weeks after Kovac bemoaned the fact that we spent a bit of money last window.
Not really, whole point he was making was probably to justify spending big himself, hence his exaggeration. What will be funny will be if we smash them again next season after he has spent all that money.
 

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Not really, whole point he was making was probably to justify spending big himself, hence his exaggeration. What will be funny will be if we smash them again next season after he has spent all that money.
This is true. I just struggle to feel any sympathy for Bayern given they get to gut the entire Bundesliga of its talent whenever they please.

We only get Southampton and Roma!
 

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Surely a Center back?

Kimmich - Pavard - Hernandez - Alaba

Is a fucking tasty backline. Id argue 2nd best in Europe.
Looks a promising backline but also looks quite young with Hernandez and Pavard as CBs. Neither of them have ever nailed down a CB spot at the top level before.
 

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Looks a promising backline but also looks quite young with Hernandez and Pavard as CBs. Neither of them have ever nailed down a CB spot at the top level before.
I dont disagree but in a couple of years certainly a formidable unit, especially as the likes of Hummels etc. Can rotate for a few years whilst they get settled, and they have Sule to bring in etc.
 

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I dont disagree but in a couple of years certainly a formidable unit, especially as the likes of Hummels etc. Can rotate for a few years whilst they get settled, and they have Sule to bring in etc.
Süle looks like a player who is there to stay (and I think he's very much Klopp's type of centre back). I really wonder if they signed Pavard and Hernandez primarily as fullbacks or as centre backs as I don't think either is better than what they already have in starting XI (in Kimmich and Alaba, they have probably the most varied pair of fullbacks in European football, possibly the best overall). Their potential is indisputable, of course, they clearly made these signings with future in mind.

The amount of money they spent on them is bound to have huge impacts on other clubs' dealings, especially those of rich ones, though. That said, I don't know if it's crazier that Liverpool got 20 million pounds for Solanke and that they are bound to get about 12 million for each of Tawoniyi and Kent. I hope they all fulfil their potential, of course, but it's still silly money for players with almost zero impact at Liverpool.
 

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Süle looks like a player who is there to stay (and I think he's very much Klopp's type of centre back). I really wonder if they signed Pavard and Hernandez primarily as fullbacks or as centre backs as I don't think either is better than what they already have in starting XI (in Kimmich and Alaba, they have probably the most varied pair of fullbacks in European football, possibly the best overall). Their potential is indisputable, of course, they clearly made these signings with future in mind.

The amount of money they spent on them is bound to have huge impacts on other clubs' dealings, especially those of rich ones, though. That said, I don't know if it's crazier that Liverpool got 20 million pounds for Solanke and that they are bound to get about 12 million for each of Tawoniyi and Kent. I hope they all fulfil their potential, of course, but it's still silly money for players with almost zero impact at Liverpool.
Is it possible Kimich or Alaba switch position next season?
 

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That won't be the end of their spending either. Ribery and Robben on their way out and Lewandoski not getting any younger so expect something big up top too as Gnabry and Coman just aren't enough for them. Rumours of Nicholas Pepe bids and there's still the Werner chat and Brandt looks too good a deal for them not to be sniffing around if that release clause is true.
 

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Isn't Hernandez a full back? That's where he played for France in the World Cup. And what about Hummels? He's still hugely impressive.
Like Pavard, he is used more often at club level as a CB. Also, for such a large fee it he is not remotely an automatic pick and amusingly not even considered their best young CB
 

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Like Pavard, he is used more often at club level as a CB. Also, for such a large fee it he is not remotely an automatic pick and amusingly not even considered their best young CB
Life at an elite club isn't it? We spent in excess of £50m on Naby and he's not a regular.

Pavard is still very young though isn't he? Boateng isn't the player he was and Hummels is getting on. Both need replacing sooner rather than later. Still reckon he has at least a season left as their first choice CB alongside Sule though.
 

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The more I think on it the more I think the best idea for attacking players is to go young.

Players good now but still developing and potentially world class.

We have Salah, Firmino and Mane who are all brilliant and shouldering the pressure of our attack needing to perform.

They can't play all games though because even if never injured or suspended we play in 4 comps and they need rotating to keep them fresh and in form.

Hopefully those 3 will be the foundation of our attack for at least 2 more seasons maybe between 3-5 seasons even.

Using guys like Wilson, Woodburn and Brewster as developing young talents that can do a job for us to bulk out the squad means we really don't need to rely on squad filler types. With the game time those kids would get maybe one or two might even kick on like Alexander-Arnold and Gomez did.

But we are still an option or two short on quality players who can properly rotate with our main three without too much of a drop off in quality. They'll get lots of playing time still but players in their prime might be a little more reserved about entering that situation.

We might get some players in their prime wanting a chance at redemption like Shaqiri or (worse) a decent enough player who is happy to just have an easy role at a big club for a decent pay packet.

Or we could go for an older veteran who has done it all before, wanting one last glorious stint at top level but maybe willing to just accept not being automatically on the team sheet week in week out anymore as they know they need plenty of rest. Suarez is the obvious suggestion here.

But with Klopps reputation for trusting and developing young players I think the opportunity is there to really push the boat out for the likes of Hudson-Odoi or Sancho.

If we brought a player or two like that in the pressure would be off them whilst they develop from a good young player to a true world class star under Klopps tutelage. They'd be useful to us during that time but when one of Salah, Mane or Firmino eventually do leave we'd have a world class player or two breaking through taking their place any way.

It'd probably be the best attack in the world (or close to it) next year if the options for our front 4 were Salah, Mane, Firmino, Ox, Sancho/Hudson-Odoi, Brewster, Shaqiri and Wilson/Woodburn. If we could land Sancho and Hudson/Odoi somehow over this summer and next whilst keeping our current front 3 and Brewster we'd be unstoppable.
 

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CB is sort of an enigma position for me. On paper it looks like we are covered but reality feels different. IMO Matip has done well, all things considered. Sure he has his moments, but every player does. Will Lovren move on this Summer looking for more first team football? Even when fit, Degsy always seems like an injury waiting to happen. But JK loves him and might be convincing him to stay. Does JK plan to rely on a healthy Gomez for an entire season?

I wonder what it would take to pry Eric Bailly away from United? According to some United fans, Ole doesn't want to play him bc of his temper. They originally paid 30 for him and I believe next year is the final year of his deal.
 

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For AM - one of Eriksen, Brandt, Dybala, Havertz.

For Stricker - one of Werner, Jovic. Or may be Europe's top supersub right now - Paco Alcacer. Or AC Milan's top man in form Piatek.

If we want a winger to back up both Mane, Mo - look no further than Sancho. But may be that's for 2021 summer. Let him stay and develop more at Dortmund.
 

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I'm fairly convinced that there's going to be another Fabinho type signing. I reckon our first summer transfer should be announced before the end of May.
And probably somebody viewed as at least decent before the move and will explode into world class form under Klopp. Will be for reasonably big money and probably won't have been seriously linked to us till the week before it's completed. I think most of the rumoured activity is in attacking midfield with no seeming urgency or talk over the wide positions where I think we are spread the most thin. I think we already have a winger recruit lined up for the left side. Mane has been tried and found to be a decent enough option at CF in 433 and we know he's good on both left and right. A lot of versatility if we bring a left forward in.
 

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The more I think on it the more I think the best idea for attacking players is to go young.

Players good now but still developing and potentially world class.

We have Salah, Firmino and Mane who are all brilliant and shouldering the pressure of our attack needing to perform.

They can't play all games though because even if never injured or suspended we play in 4 comps and they need rotating to keep them fresh and in form.

Hopefully those 3 will be the foundation of our attack for at least 2 more seasons maybe between 3-5 seasons even.

Using guys like Wilson, Woodburn and Brewster as developing young talents that can do a job for us to bulk out the squad means we really don't need to rely on squad filler types. With the game time those kids would get maybe one or two might even kick on like Alexander-Arnold and Gomez did.

But we are still an option or two short on quality players who can properly rotate with our main three without too much of a drop off in quality. They'll get lots of playing time still but players in their prime might be a little more reserved about entering that situation.

We might get some players in their prime wanting a chance at redemption like Shaqiri or (worse) a decent enough player who is happy to just have an easy role at a big club for a decent pay packet.

Or we could go for an older veteran who has done it all before, wanting one last glorious stint at top level but maybe willing to just accept not being automatically on the team sheet week in week out anymore as they know they need plenty of rest. Suarez is the obvious suggestion here.

But with Klopps reputation for trusting and developing young players I think the opportunity is there to really push the boat out for the likes of Hudson-Odoi or Sancho.

If we brought a player or two like that in the pressure would be off them whilst they develop from a good young player to a true world class star under Klopps tutelage. They'd be useful to us during that time but when one of Salah, Mane or Firmino eventually do leave we'd have a world class player or two breaking through taking their place any way.

It'd probably be the best attack in the world (or close to it) next year if the options for our front 4 were Salah, Mane, Firmino, Ox, Sancho/Hudson-Odoi, Brewster, Shaqiri and Wilson/Woodburn. If we could land Sancho and Hudson/Odoi somehow over this summer and next whilst keeping our current front 3 and Brewster we'd be unstoppable.
I think the catch with the two you mention Sancho and Hudson-Odoi is that wherever they go they will want significant playing time - its arguably why Sancho left England, and why Hudson - Odoi wants out of Chelsea.

With Mane/Firmino/Salah - they play a lot of minutes and also have engines that don't require to much rest or rotation.......so unless we changed formation to include them they would proabaly not be the nailed on starter they would be looking for in a move.

That said I think you are right - based on our current starting three all now at thier peak but heading into their late 20's, looking at younger players with big potential upside and a chance to have a succession plan is the right way to go.