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Who would you buy?

Spitfire

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The more I think on it the more I think the best idea for attacking players is to go young.

Players good now but still developing and potentially world class.

We have Salah, Firmino and Mane who are all brilliant and shouldering the pressure of our attack needing to perform.

They can't play all games though because even if never injured or suspended we play in 4 comps and they need rotating to keep them fresh and in form.

Hopefully those 3 will be the foundation of our attack for at least 2 more seasons maybe between 3-5 seasons even.

Using guys like Wilson, Woodburn and Brewster as developing young talents that can do a job for us to bulk out the squad means we really don't need to rely on squad filler types. With the game time those kids would get maybe one or two might even kick on like Alexander-Arnold and Gomez did.

But we are still an option or two short on quality players who can properly rotate with our main three without too much of a drop off in quality. They'll get lots of playing time still but players in their prime might be a little more reserved about entering that situation.

We might get some players in their prime wanting a chance at redemption like Shaqiri or (worse) a decent enough player who is happy to just have an easy role at a big club for a decent pay packet.

Or we could go for an older veteran who has done it all before, wanting one last glorious stint at top level but maybe willing to just accept not being automatically on the team sheet week in week out anymore as they know they need plenty of rest. Suarez is the obvious suggestion here.

But with Klopps reputation for trusting and developing young players I think the opportunity is there to really push the boat out for the likes of Hudson-Odoi or Sancho.

If we brought a player or two like that in the pressure would be off them whilst they develop from a good young player to a true world class star under Klopps tutelage. They'd be useful to us during that time but when one of Salah, Mane or Firmino eventually do leave we'd have a world class player or two breaking through taking their place any way.

It'd probably be the best attack in the world (or close to it) next year if the options for our front 4 were Salah, Mane, Firmino, Ox, Sancho/Hudson-Odoi, Brewster, Shaqiri and Wilson/Woodburn. If we could land Sancho and Hudson/Odoi somehow over this summer and next whilst keeping our current front 3 and Brewster we'd be unstoppable.
I think the catch with the two you mention Sancho and Hudson-Odoi is that wherever they go they will want significant playing time - its arguably why Sancho left England, and why Hudson - Odoi wants out of Chelsea.

With Mane/Firmino/Salah - they play a lot of minutes and also have engines that don't require to much rest or rotation.......so unless we changed formation to include them they would proabaly not be the nailed on starter they would be looking for in a move.

That said I think you are right - based on our current starting three all now at thier peak but heading into their late 20's, looking at younger players with big potential upside and a chance to have a succession plan is the right way to go.
 

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I think the catch with the two you mention Sancho and Hudson-Odoi is that wherever they go they will want significant playing time - its arguably why Sancho left England, and why Hudson - Odoi wants out of Chelsea.

With Mane/Firmino/Salah - they play a lot of minutes and also have engines that don't require to much rest or rotation.......so unless we changed formation to include them they would proabaly not be the nailed on starter they would be looking for in a move.

That said I think you are right - based on our current starting three all now at thier peak but heading into their late 20's, looking at younger players with big potential upside and a chance to have a succession plan is the right way to go.
Personally believe we are in an awful situation up front. None of the 3 can be rotated and rested to keep them fresh and firing. Over 4 comps this is quite frankly ridiculous. To look at the level of cover we have at CB and CM compared to our front 3 it's night and day. Except for the quality of Mignolet and Moreno we have the options at GK and LB too. It's only really RB and AM where we also don't have the choices but we have a lot of options from CB and CM for RB.
 

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This is honestly the first time where for me there doesn't need to be any signings this summer. Don't think another big money defender is needed as Gomez is finally given his platform to perform alongside Van Dijk, minus his injury. Too many midfielders are in the squad so a couple should be sold. Personally I would sign a number 10 who's world class or near enough and then leave it. Just sell in the summer rather than buy.
Quoting your post here, as it isn't related to rumour. I don't think we can just sell and not buy anyone. In fact some summer signing would really boost our squad despite how the season goes, and will bring a spark both for the players and fans alike. Plus it's not just a luxury, but a necessity itself.

We do not have adequate cover for our full backs, who are the most vital players for our system and lack of quality and rotation options there hurts us the most considering how much effort the two lads put. With Clyne and Moreno probably moving out, would have a full back who can reliably cover those two positions with a similar impact as Robbo and Trent.

Sturridge and Lallana have to be out this summer, and a forward would be a must to cover for the front 3. Origi and Shaq alone can't be relied to cover those spots by themselves, and a certain more quality upfront would immensely help us.
 

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I think the catch with the two you mention Sancho and Hudson-Odoi is that wherever they go they will want significant playing time - its arguably why Sancho left England, and why Hudson - Odoi wants out of Chelsea.

With Mane/Firmino/Salah - they play a lot of minutes and also have engines that don't require to much rest or rotation.......so unless we changed formation to include them they would proabaly not be the nailed on starter they would be looking for in a move.

That said I think you are right - based on our current starting three all now at thier peak but heading into their late 20's, looking at younger players with big potential upside and a chance to have a succession plan is the right way to go.
It's really because there is no one who can challenge the front 3 that they are playing so much. Ideal situation is to have someone good enough to push them and who has the potential to play nearly as well or win a regular place if any of them regress or get injured.
 

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Ideal situation is to have someone good enough to push them and who has the potential to play nearly as well or win a regular place if any of them regress or get injured.
Ideal would be a versatile CF who is even good enough to start together with the other three.
 

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Ideal would be a versatile CF who is even good enough to start together with the other three.
In a 433 I disagree as Firmino and Mane are perfect for the central role in the front 3. Woodburn or Brewster could be options there too. In 433 I'd be going for a left forward to challenge Mane (who can in turn challenge Firmino centrally or Salah on the right) and somebody to challenge Ox as the most offensive of the midfield 3.

You might have a point in the 4231 formation if Firmino is being eyed as the usual number 10 choice as then someone to rotate and challenge Salah (who could also sometimes play on the right) could be the answer. But I'd still want to strengthen on the left. Also if/when Salah doesn't play CF you could get by fine playing Firmino (or Brewster) if you had a real strong number 10 option.

My choices to fit both formations would be a player who could play 10 and 8 to a high standard and a player who can be a good strong option at left wing. If that second player could also play other roles great. I think I'd go someone more established and ready for the CAM role and someone young and full of potential for the wide left role.

Perfect choices for me would be one of Eriksen or Brandt. Along with one of Hudson-Odoi, Sancho or Sessegnon (then add another next year maybe).
 

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Wish Inaki Williams never signed that extension, current contract runs till 2025? Think he would have been a perfect addition to push any of the front 3 , even a perfect sub. Feel like he is what Origi should be ... buyout is 80mil ? Not worth it for that kind of money.
 

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The more I think about it, the more I see the likes of Fekir linked with us again, the more I see the likes of Utd/Chelsea linked with him.. The more I do seriously consider Coutinho coming back.

If he was man about it, apologised to Klopp for being a twat, that would be good enough for me. He is basically exactly what this team is crying out for, he is exactly what we haven't replaced.. So why not replace him with himself?

This is a team that has moved on significantly from the one he used to reside in. He'd be part of a collective front line that is already world class and he'd join that rather than be the only worldclass talent.

Look at what we need - someone who can play Left or Right Forward, someone who can play no, someone who can play no.8. A player who can dribble at pace, transitions at speed, can unlock a defence with passing, is a goal threat from outside the box.. If you had a wish list for what this side needs he'd be at the top in terms of ticking every single technical skill required.

Is it a pipe dream? Maybe but I'd hope we at least have a little conversation.. I heard Blackpool is lovely in May.
 

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At this point in time, Nobody is signing for us unless Klopp is convinced they will give us their all, so if Coutinho comes here, I don’t have a problem with it at all. If Jurgen is happy to move on, so am I.
 

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The more I think about it, the more I see the likes of Fekir linked with us again, the more I see the likes of Utd/Chelsea linked with him.. The more I do seriously consider Coutinho coming back.

If he was man about it, apologised to Klopp for being a twat, that would be good enough for me. He is basically exactly what this team is crying out for, he is exactly what we haven't replaced.. So why not replace him with himself?

This is a team that has moved on significantly from the one he used to reside in. He'd be part of a collective front line that is already world class and he'd join that rather than be the only worldclass talent.

Look at what we need - someone who can play Left or Right Forward, someone who can play no, someone who can play no.8. A player who can dribble at pace, transitions at speed, can unlock a defence with passing, is a goal threat from outside the box.. If you had a wish list for what this side needs he'd be at the top in terms of ticking every single technical skill required.

Is it a pipe dream? Maybe but I'd hope we at least have a little conversation.. I heard Blackpool is lovely in May.
Even if we forget the leopard spots thing, I can’t even imagine the pressure he’d be under at Anfield.
 

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I think we'd forgive him quickly enough with a few great performances..


Just think him behind our front 3..
I'd have him back. I'd love it if Moreno does join them on a free this summer but Barca don't realise that the €100m surcharge applies to all players registered with LFC as at 30 June 2019.

Don't worry Barca, Coutinho on a free and I'd call it quits.
 

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I think we'd forgive him quickly enough with a few great performances..


Just think him behind our front 3..
Imagine him now with that back 5 instead. He never had issues with the forwards we had. While he was around, we never had a stable defense.

Somehow we never hate the players forever like we hated the day when they left. Torres, Suarez watching their old videos for us still makes me smile.

Wonder how many bridges did he burn to leave. I am actually indifferent at this moment. If he joins back good, else doesn't matter. We have moved on and will fine someone as good if not better.
 

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Regardless of what people think of Coutinho (I wouldn't want him back, that's for sure), I don't think he'd fit this Liverpool side anymore. Not even Shaqiri can get a game these days, Klopp wants his forwards/wide players to put in a shift every week and I don't think Coutinho was good at it. How often do we see Salah sprinting back or Mane acting as the second left back...

If anything, I think Klopp would like to have another forward of Firmino/Mane/Salah kind, if not of that quality. He already has Shaqiri as creative but not that tactically strong midfielder and hopefully he'll have AOC and Keita back as genuine all-action midfielders. Lallana can't replicate his 2016/17 form anymore, Origi lacks mental strength needed to turn him into a beast of a player, Sturridge is as good as gone... I really don't see where a player like Coutinho would fit there, especially if AOC and Keita finally regain their fitness and find their feet.
 

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He is a front 3 player now. Will never be a #10 for Klopp, he already talked about it. To be one of the two #8's he'd have to work even harder. Not his strengths anymore (if they ever were, some games and periods aside), he's become first and foremost an attacker.
In midfield I'd prefer someone like Eriksen or Brandt. Up top I'd prefer someone faster more about scoring than creating.
 

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I'd have him back. I'd love it if Moreno does join them on a free this summer but Barca don't realise that the €100m surcharge applies to all players registered with LFC as at 30 June 2019.

Don't worry Barca, Coutinho on a free and I'd call it quits.
Good points above. 2 hours later I've changed my mind.

We've moved on in more ways than one.
 

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Personally believe we are in an awful situation up front. None of the 3 can be rotated and rested to keep them fresh and firing. Over 4 comps this is quite frankly ridiculous. To look at the level of cover we have at CB and CM compared to our front 3 it's night and day. Except for the quality of Mignolet and Moreno we have the options at GK and LB too. It's only really RB and AM where we also don't have the choices but we have a lot of options from CB and CM for RB.
I agree, Shaq did well early on in the season but has fallen away due to injury and maybe other reasons (pure speculation). Origi and Sturride really don't fill to many with confidence. We need strengthening in this area for sure, I wonder if we don't look for an out and out striker to come in possibly, adds another dimension would be complimentary for 4-2-3-1 - and gives Firmino a break or he moves wide to give the others a rest and hoepfully Shaq finds form again.
 

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It's really because there is no one who can challenge the front 3 that they are playing so much. Ideal situation is to have someone good enough to push them and who has the potential to play nearly as well or win a regular place if any of them regress or get injured.
Agree - I just can't see it being either of the two mentioned or someone we have to spend the sort of money they are talking for Sancho on. It maybe more like a Fabinho type transfer........
 

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If he was man about it, apologised to Klopp for being a twat, that would be good enough for me. He is basically exactly what this team is crying out for, he is exactly what we haven't replaced.. So why not replace him with himself?
The team isn't 'crying out' for anything given its position, it's only the fans who are crying out for that sort of player.

That said, I'd take Coutinho back at a severely cut price. Good option out on the left.
 

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The team isn't 'crying out' for anything given its position, it's only the fans who are crying out for that sort of player.

That said, I'd take Coutinho back at a severely cut price. Good option out on the left.
The gulf in class/quality from Salah/Mane/Firmino to the backup players is pretty large, so for me yes we are crying out for a genuine rotation option for our front 3. I think we've had a fair bit of luck this season in the fact none of our front 3 have been injured, if they had would we be doing so well?

Again when I say crying out, I mean the above is also potentially something that could happen again so the player coming in needs to be able to play multiple positions at a high level. I'm a bit surprised at the post saying he would never be a no.10 here? I'd be expecting if we started Firmino, Salah. Mane, Coutinho it would be so fluid actual positions would be a bit moot.

My point would be the same if it was Fekir, or Brandt or Werner. I think the team is crying out for a player who is good enough to drop into our front 3 and us not see a drop in quality. Allowing all players to be fresher and not risking burn out.

If we want to compete on all fronts (including domestic cups) I think this is needed long term.
 

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The gulf in class/quality from Salah/Mane/Firmino to the backup players is pretty large, so for me yes we are crying out for a genuine rotation option for our front 3. I think we've had a fair bit of luck this season in the fact none of our front 3 have been injured, if they had would we be doing so well?

Again when I say crying out, I mean the above is also potentially something that could happen again so the player coming in needs to be able to play multiple positions at a high level. I'm a bit surprised at the post saying he would never be a no.10 here? I'd be expecting if we started Firmino, Salah. Mane, Coutinho it would be so fluid actual positions would be a bit moot.

My point would be the same if it was Fekir, or Brandt or Werner. I think the team is crying out for a player who is good enough to drop into our front 3 and us not see a drop in quality. Allowing all players to be fresher and not risking burn out.

If we want to compete on all fronts (including domestic cups) I think this is needed long term.
I guess the counter to the first point is that we have the option of changing formation if one of our front 3 is injured and our back up options are not strong enough for a particular game.