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So you think that some time before the end of the summer in 2021 that one of Matip or Lovren will leave?

Pretty bold prediction.
Sorry meant both and then by the very latest. Wouldn't be old for CBs especially not Matip. Just think those two are now on borrowed time. Klopp will find another "perfect" CB sooner rather than later, Gomez stepping above both in the pecking order and the possibility of Hoever and other kids breaking through. I doubt any CB over the age of 25 will be bought though. Not unless both Matip and Lovren both seek to leave before Hoever is ready, then maybe a Klavan style signing.
 

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Perfect scenario for me would be
- Lovren to ask for a move this summer and being replaced by a m35£ish CB. Don’t know who and what Klopp would be looking at. Maybe Diego Llorente - don’t know him - we were linked with him a few weeks ago.

- Matip to run out his contract until the end of next season. Not a big problem because we also signed him on a free.

- Hoever could be ready to be our #4 by that time.
Before Mascott shoots me down I'll point out this is only my opinion. But based on some of the prices for CBs and the prices Edwards gets on our sales I wouldn't be surprised to see us get 35 million for Lovren if we sell him.
 

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According to Kicker Thorgan Hazard agreed personal terms with Dortmund but Het Nieuwsblad in Belgium write that Gladbach prefers to sell to us.
 

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What are people's thoughts on Moise Kean?

I confess I know relatively little aside from the fact I signed him in last year's FM and he became extraordinarily good... but in recent weeks I've seen his name come up in the media increasingly often and it seems he's started to make an impression in Italy:


Apparently his current contract expires in 2020, and while Juve will no doubt look to extend I wonder what his asking price would be?
 

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What are people's thoughts on Moise Kean?

I confess I know relatively little aside from the fact I signed him in last year's FM and he became extraordinarily good... but in recent weeks I've seen his name come up in the media increasingly often and it seems he's started to make an impression in Italy:


Apparently his current contract expires in 2020, and while Juve will no doubt look to extend I wonder what his asking price would be?
He's a proper talent, scored goals at every youth level for Italy, but was no expected to play much of a role this year. He started getting some games around the turn of the year, but I think it was the combination of Ronaldo's injury and their unassailable lead in the league that has seen him get a bit more of a go recently, and he's been brilliant. Don't be surprised if he ends up playing important minutes against Ajax, more than Dybala.
 

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He could make the sale of Dybala much more comfortable for them , he probably already has. They'll never sell him though, well not for years anyway, unless he refused to sign a contract wanting out with the racism he has to put up with over there.
 

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Moise Kean is alright, looks properly built to lead the line in a physical league. Fantastic mix of physical qualities, similar to Origi, only with a spring in his step and bit of self-confidence and youthful fearlessness that Divock lacks. I always think of Drogba when I see these two, proper battering ram qualities about both but Kean looks to be the one who will fulfil his potential.

In terms of Liverpool, I'm not sure he's what Klopp needs at the moment. Maybe I'm overthinking it but when I think of forwards Klopp should sign, I always ask "would they be able to play in multiple roles". Kean wouldn't, at least I haven't seen anything about him that suggests he would. That said, he'll be an excellent out-and-out striker.
 

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He could make the sale of Dybala much more comfortable for them , he probably already has. They'll never sell him though, well not for years anyway, unless he refused to sign a contract wanting out with the racism he has to put up with over there.
Don't think we'll be moving for him but with the "mixed" support he got from his manager, club and some teammates over the sickening racism I think he'll be reluctant to sign a contract extension.
 

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Moise Kean is alright, looks properly built to lead the line in a physical league. Fantastic mix of physical qualities, similar to Origi, only with a spring in his step and bit of self-confidence and youthful fearlessness that Divock lacks. I always think of Drogba when I see these two, proper battering ram qualities about both but Kean looks to be the one who will fulfil his potential.

In terms of Liverpool, I'm not sure he's what Klopp needs at the moment. Maybe I'm overthinking it but when I think of forwards Klopp should sign, I always ask "would they be able to play in multiple roles". Kean wouldn't, at least I haven't seen anything about him that suggests he would. That said, he'll be an excellent out-and-out striker.
I wonder if the resurgence (small sample size) of Henderson as a no.8 and the chatter by Pep Ljinders about Neves being the level we should be looking at means Klopp is shifting to wanting another no.6 to rotate with Fabinho?

Forwards is harder to pin as I thought Brandt was nailed on, but he isn't exactly playing as a forward at the mo. More a no.8 and with Keita, Henderson (and Ox) to come back is that what we need? My preference would be Sancho and failing that Hudson-Odoi - Both world class talents.
 

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I wonder if the resurgence (small sample size) of Henderson as a no.8 and the chatter by Pep Ljinders about Neves being the level we should be looking at means Klopp is shifting to wanting another no.6 to rotate with Fabinho?

Forwards is harder to pin as I thought Brandt was nailed on, but he isn't exactly playing as a forward at the mo. More a no.8 and with Keita, Henderson (and Ox) to come back is that what we need? My preference would be Sancho and failing that Hudson-Odoi - Both world class talents.
I would be surprised if that was the case. I would think he would continue to rotate with current options. Has Wijnaldum been offered a new contract yet?
 

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Or we are forward planning the loss of Milner? A point is do we have any midfielders who could step into that void?

My comment comes from;

https://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/liverpool-coach-hints-at-interest-in-wolves-star-neves/hs68sa084beu15qc67ybmwtdi

We've also been weakly linked to Rice from West Ham.
Yes, i've seen that link yesterday - i dont put any value in it as it comes from a story from a portuguese paper which i thought wasnt very reliable for transfer stories. It's probably Pep just saying something nice about someone he knows and is being spun.

I think we are most definitely planning for life post Milner - he covers so much of our squad options that we have to get some of them boxed off this window.
 

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Yes, i've seen that link yesterday - i dont put any value in it as it comes from a story from a portuguese paper which i thought wasnt very reliable for transfer stories. It's probably Pep just saying something nice about someone he knows and is being spun.

I think we are most definitely planning for life post Milner - he covers so much of our squad options that we have to get some of them boxed off this window.
Yep replacing Milner is a strange one.. His last 3 games for us have been at right back, left back and center mid.. Now that is a broad skillset!

My expectation is we get a left back or someone who can play left back to a high level but also other positions hence the thoughts about Sessegnon. Right back I think Gomez is the natural rotation with Trent, although I'd prefer not as he is best at center half (and it is less demand on his body).

Then you have the center mid equation - Fabinho, Henderson, Keita, Gini, Oxlade you'd say 100% here next year with Lallana as a question mark. You may be right do we even need more bodies? I'd argue yes as it's probably the highest attritional position in Klopps team.
 

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I wonder if the resurgence (small sample size) of Henderson as a no.8 and the chatter by Pep Ljinders about Neves being the level we should be looking at means Klopp is shifting to wanting another no.6 to rotate with Fabinho?

Forwards is harder to pin as I thought Brandt was nailed on, but he isn't exactly playing as a forward at the mo. More a no.8 and with Keita, Henderson (and Ox) to come back is that what we need? My preference would be Sancho and failing that Hudson-Odoi - Both world class talents.
Neves is good - that he is good enough to break into current first XI of Liverpool, I'm not sure. He's definitely different to other midfielders Klopp currently has at his disposal, his passing range and long shooting is insanely good. I believe that a decision on Grujić and Wilson won't be made yet but with Lallana's injury history and Milner's age, there might be a spot for another midfielder in the future. That said, I don't think this is a priority for Klopp, I still think that three players brought in this summer will be a centre back, a fullback and a forward of some sort.
 

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Neves is good - that he is good enough to break into current first XI of Liverpool, I'm not sure. He's definitely different to other midfielders Klopp currently has at his disposal, his passing range and long shooting is insanely good. I believe that a decision on Grujić and Wilson won't be made yet but with Lallana's injury history and Milner's age, there might be a spot for another midfielder in the future. That said, I don't think this is a priority for Klopp, I still think that three players brought in this summer will be a centre back, a fullback and a forward of some sort.
I could definitely see a fullback and a forward plus a backup goalkeeper brought in. But what makes you so confident we will bring in a new centre back?

I'm not sure any of our current 4 will be leaving and I would think Hoever or Phillips (if he is ever healthy) could be a 5th choice thus lowering the possibility.
 

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I could definitely see a fullback and a forward plus a backup goalkeeper brought in. But what makes you so confident we will bring in a new centre back?

I'm not sure any of our current 4 will be leaving and I would think Hoever or Phillips (if he is ever healthy) could be a 5th choice thus lowering the possibility.

I think Lovren will want to leave, and if we can get 30mil for him we will let him.
 

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I could definitely see a fullback and a forward plus a backup goalkeeper brought in. But what makes you so confident we will bring in a new centre back?

I'm not sure any of our current 4 will be leaving and I would think Hoever or Phillips (if he is ever healthy) could be a 5th choice thus lowering the possibility.
Lovren will have two years on his current contract this summer and is still marketable, I think that Liverpool will have a few suitors for a centre back who's played Champions League and World Cup finals. I don't believe he's Liverpool material because of his inconsistency, Liverpool really need a better option, especially with Gomez' injury issues. Meanwhile, Matip has only one year left on his contract and it doesn't look like he will be getting a new one, meaning he will probably be released at the end of his current one.

That leaves enough space for one major CB signing, with Hoever maybe being promoted the season after the next. I really don't think Phillips is the answer, I wish all the best to lad but he just doesn't have the technical ability and pace to be a centre back in Klopp's side, nor the experience to make up for the lack of them (like Klavan did for most of the time).
 

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A centre back signing isn't exactly necessary and should probably only be pursued if a particularly good deal comes along.

Skrinriar at a relatively low release clause? That would tick the box. If you can find a buyer for Lovren or Matip then it makes perfect sense. If not, we're good with what is already here.
 

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I think Lovren has simply just skanked a breather after coming back knackered from the WC, and found he'd lost his place. I think he'll have a resurgence here, or maybe just a surgence. The Gomez injury situation is a real tough one however good he is if he cannot play it poses a difficult problem. So I also agree the club will not likely be looking to disturb the CB array unless they are forced to.
 



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According to Kicker Thorgan Hazard agreed personal terms with Dortmund but Het Nieuwsblad in Belgium write that Gladbach prefers to sell to us.
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A centre back signing isn't exactly necessary and should probably only be pursued if a particularly good deal comes along.

Skrinriar at a relatively low release clause? That would tick the box. If you can find a buyer for Lovren or Matip then it makes perfect sense. If not, we're good with what is already here.
We need a CB as reinforcement. Gomez and Matip have had shitty luck with injuries so far during their liverpool days. We can't get into the position that we were in this season again when we've had to play fabinho in defense at one time.
 

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I wonder if the resurgence (small sample size) of Henderson as a no.8 and the chatter by Pep Ljinders about Neves being the level we should be looking at means Klopp is shifting to wanting another no.6 to rotate with Fabinho?

Forwards is harder to pin as I thought Brandt was nailed on, but he isn't exactly playing as a forward at the mo. More a no.8 and with Keita, Henderson (and Ox) to come back is that what we need? My preference would be Sancho and failing that Hudson-Odoi - Both world class talents.
Rather give Brewster a shot. Sancho and Odoi won't come cheap. Both great talents and would have the English premium.
 

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We need a CB as reinforcement. Gomez and Matip have had shitty luck with injuries so far during their liverpool days. We can't get into the position that we were in this season again when we've had to play fabinho in defense at one time.
Why? Fabinho was right up there with Gomez just behind Van Dijk with his performance at CB. 2nd/3rd best CB at the club. I personally prefer to have him in CM but no doubt Henderson and Wijnaldum can cover that "number 6" role if we did need to play Fabinho at CB. Your post makes it sound like a catastrophe.
 

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Why? Fabinho was right up there with Gomez just behind Van Dijk with his performance at CB. 2nd/3rd best CB at the club. I personally prefer to have him in CM but no doubt Henderson and Wijnaldum can cover that "number 6" role if we did need to play Fabinho at CB. Your post makes it sound like a catastrophe.
Those are quick fixes, Not something that can work for an extended period of time. I'd rather have Fabinho in midfield. Gomez/Matip/Lovren have all been injured this season and that could have potentially derailed our season. We'd still need one more CB. Maybe Hoever can do that role, A preseason training along with Virgil probably can help ease matters.