Who would you buy?

[Iluvatar]

Yeah, that's no wonder! No player from there will come cheap, unless there is already something agreed with the player and the club, we'll see.

But Barca have secured themselves another huge talent, that's for sure... (the pricks)

From what I read this season Ajax's management knew they really had a special group of players and sat them down last summer (with offers on the table to move) and said look give us 1 more season and we could achieve something unbelievable.. If we go out of the CL I'd love them to win it, it's a young hungry side who is about to be dismantled (not that sad as that is Ajax's entire business plan these days).

De Ligt, Neres, Ziyech, Dolberg, Van Beek are all potential superstars as you said yourself. De Ligt is the pick for me, would love him here.

 

[lfc.eddie]

I wonder whether Klopp and Edwards will have a look at one or two of the current Ajax players. Some gems there for sure.

If they make the finals, we should stay away from their players and give them one more season. Let the rest go gaga and in awe with them. Let other fans put out YouTub videos about the arrival of so and so. The following summer we make our swoop - the others would most likely get the wrong player. Remember Bakayoko? And how we sneak in and get Fabinho?

 

[GermanRed]

How Barcelona loss laid bare Liverpool's biggest transfer priority


http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/how-defeat-barcelona-laid-bare-16224932#ICID=ios_lfcecho_AppShare_Click_Other

 

[Limiescouse]

After a really slow start, I have become really impressed with Lucas Moura the past 6 weeks or so. He didnt arrive with the greatest reputation for aptitude, but everytime I have seen him in this current run he has looked 100% a Klopp player. I think he was arguably the best player on the pitch when we beat them a few weeks ago.

 

[ABRed]

After a really slow start, I have become really impressed with Lucas Moura the past 6 weeks or so. He didnt arrive with the greatest reputation for aptitude, but everytime I have seen him in this current run he has looked 100% a Klopp player. I think he was arguably the best player on the pitch when we beat them a few weeks ago.

Aye your right there was a bloody menace.

 

[Danny Sarge]

De Ligt, Neves, Brandt would be definite additions for me. De Ligt as a starter obviously, Neves as competition for Fabinho and Brandt who I would like to see in a more central attacking role opposed to the left, similar to De Bruyne in a midfield 3.

Would also like maybe two more additions including a back up keeper and an attacking player who can play across the front 3.

 

[RedForever2014]

Whether or not we win none, one, or both the CL or PL, we've got to look to improve the squad.

Next season we need to have 20 outfield senior players, of whom those at the lower end of the squad are capable of playing more than those currently here can, without results being at risk.

VVD, the front three and Robertson will need more rotation than has been possible this season. In fact, they might be more injury prone next season without it.

We also need more forwards who can play regularly, from the start of matches, at a good enough level. The cameos from Sturridge and Origi this season have been welcome, but they are not enough.

Moreno and Sturridge 100% need to go, it would be extremely concerning to see either given a new contract to save buying someone. Lallana can raise a few quid and is of little use anymore given other players we have, and last night I finally lost patience with Lovren and think we should cash in on him too. There is a debate to be had around Origi, who would fetch a decent fee, but who for me wouldn't be the right level if one of the front three had a long term injury.

The level of any centre back signed can be debated. Personally I'd go for another rock so VVD can be rested, but there's a case for a left footer who can cover left back. A couple of quality versatile attacking midfielders come forwards are a must.

It does seem that some believe that because we can't find someone like Bobby we shouldn't sign anyone at all. In fact, that Bobby has to play all the time because our system demands it.

My view on that is that the system with Bobby, Mo and Mane in it, who as a three are much greater than the sum of the parts, is one part of our strategy to compete.

But I also believe that when, as will happen, you can't field that unit, you rely on quality, even if more individual and less joined up, to win matches.

We'll never find another Bobby, but we can sign a quality forward whose individual quality would enable us to win matches when Bobby isn't used.

In short, by all means have a system, but also have the option to beat teams based on the quality in your side. Our current forward back ups don't offer that other than in cameos. If the front three suffered injuries, that wouldn't be enough.

 

[Nikola]

I thought Liverpool would be able to raise a few quid for Lallana but the more the season progressed, the less I was convinced about it. Always some "minor" injury to keep him away from the match squad for prolonged periods. I think that the best the club can hope for is to find someone who will take him on loan and cover his wages until his contract expires.

That said, Ings, Origi, Clyne, Kent, Ejaria and Awoniyi can probably raise a fair sum of money, while having Sturridge, Lallana and Moreno off the wage bill isn't something to scoff at. I hope Lovren joins the list of departures this summer, too, so all the remnants of that wretched summer of 2014 are finally cleared out and replaced with players who are ultimately a better fit for Klopp's football and who can consistently contribute to Liverpool's cause. Liverpool started last two seasons with stronger squads and we were all fawning over the newly acquired squad strength, only for couple of injuries to force Klopp to call on the likes of Lovren, Sturridge and even Lallana.

I still don't expect any monumental signings this summer, I think Klopp will opt for younger players with bags of potential, someone like Sessegnon or Hudson-Odoi (I'm convinced Liverpool would have been seriously interested in him had it not been for his injury). Players like De Ligt, Hudson-Odoi and Sessegnon would be perfect for Liverpool at this point, in my opinion, but I don't see Liverpool going for the former two for different reasons, unfortunately.

 

[ILLOK]

Liverpool started last two seasons with stronger squads and we were all fawning over the newly acquired squad strength, only for couple of injuries to force Klopp to call on the likes of Lovren, Sturridge and even Lallana.

I still don't expect any monumental signings this summer, I think Klopp will opt for younger players with bags of potential, someone like Sessegnon or Hudson-Odoi (I'm convinced Liverpool would have been seriously interested in him had it not been for his injury). Players like De Ligt, Hudson-Odoi and Sessegnon would be perfect for Liverpool at this point, in my opinion, but I don't see Liverpool going for the former two for different reasons, unfortunately.

Re bolded - are you arguing our squad isn't strong?

Quite the argument to make for a team with 94 points and in a CL semi final. Not sure I would agree with that one. Even though we all agree we need a better option for the front 3, our subs have more goals than anybody elses and Origi, Shaqiri and Sturridge have made a significant number of important contributions between them.

Agree with you with regards to the player profile we'll be targeting, this coming window gives us a chance to get rid of some older, lesser performing players with poor fitness records and replace them with younger, hopefully better players. Consolidate our medium-long term position at the top of the tree.

 

[20ATHLONE]

My thoughts on what we need 1 or 2 players with an already obvious “wow factor”
My picks; Dybala and De Ligt

Then a few “projects” we develop further
Harry Wilson, Grujic, Camacho and Brewster

Say goodbye to; Lallana, Ings, Milner (sadly) ,Sturridge and Lovren

 

[GaryBarlow99]

Leroy Sane :tongue:

 

[Danny Sarge]

What about Ricardo Pereira of Leicester. Reason being its more than likely that Clyne and Moreno will be gone as well as Milner who has covered at times this season at full back, so indeed we will be quite short if our first two get injured. I think he could be a very useful versatile player who could cover on both sides and ive been fairly impressed when I've seen him this season.

 

[cynicaloldgit]

I think he could be a very useful versatile player

Especially if he continues getting away with obvious fouls.

 

[nikz200]

I think its easy for us to just say "sell origin" but it feels like the lad has done enough when his number has been called upon to earn a extension with us. Especially since Sturridge is leaving for good reason. Don't know what the future holds for Shaqiri, but i hope he gets a shot again. If Milner leaves we need a veteran mid just to utility for us when he is needed.

Currently the wishlist looks like this

1. Dybala (Marquee, unlikely)
2. De ligt (Marquee unlikely)
3. Timo Werner ( First team, 60% likely to happen)
4. Tonali (rotation, 40% likely to happen)
5. Adrien Rabiot ( first team, 20% likely to happen)


These are just the players i wish, and not all 5 of them, some of these are alternates to the others.

With players like Fekir or Joao felix,situation will depend on whether we have a squad need for them or not.

 

[Koon]

Watching Leverkusen 6x1 Frankfurt.

Brandt is such a great player. He has Ox's speed and drive forward football, but also finesse, creativity and dribbling. A complete midfielder at this point. Would match us beautifully and I could see him easily able to cover both number 8/10 and winger positions.

I know he will most probably end up in Bayern, but we must try at least.

 

[20ATHLONE]

I say we sign every human over the age of 12. This way nobody else can field a team and we are automatically crowned champions of everything.
Just a thought

 

[ILLOK]

Watching Leverkusen 6x1 Frankfurt.

Brandt is such a great player. He has Ox's speed and drive forward football, but also finesse, creativity and dribbling. A complete midfielder at this point. Would match us beautifully and I could see him easily able to cover both number 8/10 and winger positions.

I know he will most probably end up in Bayern, but we must try at least.

Ox has those things too.

Brandt's a good player who would do well here. I'd like to see Milner's minutes go to somebody like him in the midfield instead.

 

[The Elusive 19th]

I say we sign every human over the age of 12. This way nobody else can field a team and we are automatically crowned champions of everything.
Just a thought

How high are you right now....

 

[Koon]

Ox has those things too.

Brandt's a good player who would do well here. I'd like to see Milner's minutes go to somebody like him in the midfield instead.

I think Ox is a better presser and faster carrying the ball, but Brandt looks better in all other aspects at this moment, even if I compare with the best of Ox last season. Especially in terms of playmaking, Brandt looks way ahead of him. And the most important is that he is not injury prone. In fact, he is absolutely reliable in this aspect, basically never injured.

Brandt under Klopp would become an absolute beast, he has all the tools we need.

 

[ILLOK]

I think Ox is a better presser and faster carrying the ball, but Brandt looks better in all other aspects at this moment, even if I compare with the best of Ox last season. Especially in terms of playmaking, Brandt looks way ahead of him. And the most important is that he is not injury prone. In fact, he is absolutely reliable in this aspect, basically never injured.

Brandt under Klopp would become an absolute beast, he has all the tools we need.

Much easier to showcase those skills in the Bundesliga, though. The space Frankfurt afforded them today was hilarious, if Chamberlain had been given that much time he'd have hurt them too.

I don't disagree though, Brandt would be an excellent buy.

 

[Colorado Red]

Klopp really hasn’t used his status in German football that much, in terms of signing top Bundesliga talent. This summer’s a time to change that, by bringing in Brandt and Werner. Combined, they’d tick a lot of boxes in terms of players who can play across the front line and in attacking or box-to-box mid.

Sturridge and Lallana depart.
Brewster gets “promoted” (eg starts getting some playing time).
Ox hopefully comes back as something close to the player he was before.
Keita continues to develop into the player we need as an 8.
Hardest decision to make will be whether to keep or sell Origi.

Then we need cover for LB and at CB think we need one out, and (Lovren), and one in, preferably someone who can spell Virgil at the LCB position from time to time. Sure, Sessegnon and DeLight would be up there, but not sure either will come our way, as expect the former to sign for Spurs, and the latter to either move to Barca or stay 1 more season at Ajax.

 

[ILLOK]

Klopp really hasn’t used his status in German football that much, in terms of signing top Bundesliga talent.

That's because a lot of it isn't as good as advertised. Werner a prime example.

It's no coincidence that a lot of good Bundesliga players have struggled here and a lot of our young kids or players who never made an impact e.g. Kramaric are finding it much easier over there.

You only have to look at the results of English vs German sides in European competition this season to see the gulf in quality.

 

[20ATHLONE]

How high are you right now....

Very! Well spotted my friend

 

[Nikola]

Re bolded - are you arguing our squad isn't strong?

Quite the argument to make for a team with 94 points and in a CL semi final. Not sure I would agree with that one. Even though we all agree we need a better option for the front 3, our subs have more goals than anybody elses and Origi, Shaqiri and Sturridge have made a significant number of important contributions between them.

Agree with you with regards to the player profile we'll be targeting, this coming window gives us a chance to get rid of some older, lesser performing players with poor fitness records and replace them with younger, hopefully better players. Consolidate our medium-long term position at the top of the tree.

I'm arguing that it isn't strong as those of clubs we are looking to overcome. Now, I don't think it is realistic to have two very good players in every position like Man City do but I'm honestly exasperated by the sight of Sturridge toiling when Liverpool need a goal, news of Lallana's latest injury or Lovren repeatedly failing to contain opponents' physical forwards.

I do think it is possible to solve these issues with one good window. Between Brewster's and Hoever's eventual promotions and up to three new purchases, I think Klopp and Edwards can get it done. Klopp does tend to target multifunctional players, so there should be plenty of minutes for everyone.

As for his subs, I think it's more down to the way Klopp sets up his team and motivates his players rather than their individual quality (I wish them all well but some of them would be better off somewhere else). Even Benteke used to be good off the bench... That said, I expect more from the likes of Keita and Shaqiri and I hope AOC can pick up from where he left off. Plenty of room for improvement there, I take heart from Lallana's second season with Klopp, as well as Wijnaldum and Matip from this season. That number of goals/assists should be consistently high, I think that consistency can be achieved with the improvement of current players and replacement of those past their best.

 

[Flobs]

I have watched all LFC matches this season and only 1 play caught my eye and could be a real bargain now. Manga from Cardiff City. What do others think?

 

[ILLOK]

I'm arguing that it isn't strong as those of clubs we are looking to overcome.

Now, I don't think it is realistic to have two very good players in every position like Man City do

Which one is it?

To be at the point that we're disappointed with Lovren, Lallana and Sturridge being given the occasional appearance is a pretty fantastic place to be in, and it is not indicative of us having a particularly weak squad.

Klopp has always been able to motivate his players but he hasn't always been able to change a game from the bench, the difference is the quality of player he now has at his disposal.

Yes, there's room for improvement, which I'm hopeful we'll see in the summer.

 

[Koon]

Much easier to showcase those skills in the Bundesliga, though. The space Frankfurt afforded them today was hilarious, if Chamberlain had been given that much time he'd have hurt them too.

I don't disagree though, Brandt would be an excellent buy.

I'm not talking exactly about today's game, it's about his past 2 seasons. But this season, playing as a number 8 he looks fantastic. And he has always been a playmaker, the news is about his defensive skills and versatility. That's a whole new level. I never looked at Ox as a playmaker (his stats also don't look like that of a playmaker), but as an attacker and a presser.

I wouldn't say it's much easier playing Bundesliga. There are really good players and good teams there, just like there are very poor teams in EPL. The main difference are the biggest teams. Our top 6 is way better than theirs, but from 7~18, I can't see too much difference tbh and in terms of play style, it is not as physical, but it still is physical enough and I don't think there's that much space.

Ajax is the biggest reason why I think if you play a top 5 league as an above average player, you can play any league in the world. Salah and Alisson are also good examples and there are many others. It's all about the right manager and the right play style. If you have a manager like Mourinho, you will struggle, but if you have Klopp, Pochettino or Guardiola, you will probably become an even better player.

 

[Flobs]

Absolutely amazing and rediculous this idea I'm reading that we need highly specific types of player to make a team. That would make Klopp look fucking stupid if we had an injury crisis.

 

[GermanRed]

Weren’t we linked with Lloyd Kelly (LB/CB) from Bristol City? How is he doing this season?

I still like Nathan Aké. Probably too expensive for a long term cover for CB and LB (think that’s what he would be) but I think he has huge potential.

 

[ILLOK]

I'm not talking exactly about today's game, it's about his past 2 seasons. But this season, playing as a number 8 he looks fantastic. And he has always been a playmaker, the news is about his defensive skills and versatility. That's a whole new level. I never looked at Ox as a playmaker (his stats also don't look like that of a playmaker), but as an attacker and a presser.

I wouldn't say it's much easier playing Bundesliga. There are really good players and good teams there, just like there are very poor teams in EPL. The main difference are the biggest teams. Our top 6 is way better than theirs, but from 7~18, I can't see too much difference tbh and in terms of play style, it is not as physical, but it still is physical enough and I don't think there's that much space.

Ajax is the biggest reason why I think if you play a top 5 league as an above average player, you can play any league in the world. Salah and Alisson are also good examples and there are many others. It's all about the right manager and the right play style. If you have a manager like Mourinho, you will struggle, but if you have Klopp, Pochettino or Guardiola, you will probably become an even better player.

I'm not arguing there isn't any good players in Germany, just that there's not as many as it appears on the surface. There's no two ways about it, it's clearly an inferior league. Logic then suggests that inferior players find it easier, and also that good players could find it more difficult elsewhere.

Kagawa, Mhkitaryan and Gundogan were all 'playmakers' in Germany but couldn't come close to producing that here. Xhaka had a big reputation in Germany but hasn't lived up to it here. Our own Keita hasn't quite lived up to the billing yet, though the signs are promising. It's only KdB who has undoubtedly lived up to the reputation he gained in that league.

Brandt may be a 'playmaker' for Leverkusen but for this Liverpool side he'd be just another cog in the machine. It really isn't the same, not only is the standard of football superior but Liverpool are also a far more disciplined and sensible side than Leverkusen. Leverkusen don't have a player like Firmino who operates in those spaces and they don't have the full backs we do, Brandt would almost certainly find it very difficult to keep up those assist numbers here.

Just to be clear, I think Brandt has what it takes, but your post makes it out that he's miles ahead of Ox and I can't agree yet, I think they're quite similar provided Chamberlain returns to the same level. I'd love to see them play together, though.