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Mascot88

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Yep. By you. For saying Brendan Rodgers ' teeth were very white. For 48hrs you said...

Few years ago now... :D

Mousecat was the username buddy.. could u reactivate it for us? Ta
Not what you were banned for lol But anyway, I’ve tried to remove your warnings, (which should have automatically reactivated your account after two days). And the account is still banned - I don’t think the software likes you.

@ubermick @Nikola @Hope in your heart could you have a look?
 

Mascot88

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Mascot88

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:rolleyes:

The fact that you took that as the "moral of the story" is a reflection of a combination of the disingenuity and lack of careful reading that you've demonstrated this discussion from the very beginning. I have had an engaging back-and-forth on this topic with other posters without a problem. But your approach to this discussion, coupled with that silly poem, only confirms my suspicions that you're not interested in having a respectful dialogue and more interested in taking the piss out of me. :wave:
There have been about four points in this boring and off topic argument when a natural conclusion had been reached and you could have chosen to not reply.

Let’s have no more of this bickering now please.
 

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The domestic cups depend entirely on the draws. Man Citeh’s dominance of them this year is less to do with their resources, and more that they played nobody of note and got the two easiest routes to the finals in living memory.

Give us fucking Newport County, Burton Albion etc on the run and I’d fancy us to win a cup as well.
We got knocked out of the cups by nobodies! :J
 

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And pointlessly.

Quite a few people, by the look of it. Anyone would think we had a massive game in just over a week and we’re all shitting ourselves about it...
I can confirm said shitting is occurring! Watching back how we lost v's Real I actually cannot believe we were that unlucky. This forum doesn't do well without a game per week, too much time to procrastinate!
 

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Fabinho, Naby Keïta, and Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain.

I would also politely suggest that better control of matches is one of the major differences between 17/18 and 18/19.
Ox is a big Brucie bonus. However, we can't be certain he'll bounce back to the level he was at immediately. He also still might suffer more injuries, and considering he was often injury prone at Arsenal, it's more than a guess that this might happen. Hopefully it won't.
I wouldn't be against us signing a further creative player, for games where we are at home and we don't need Fab+ Wij for example. Fekir being very close last year suggests it has been considered too.

Your mind isn't important it's Klopp's mind that counts.
Milner's 33 so obviously he'll be getting phased out, that's why Keita etc was bought.
You don't concede the lowest goals total without control.
The work the midfield puts in allows the creativity to come from elsewhere.
Put politely there's a lot of tosh in this post.
Absolutely agree- but what happens next season now that our full backs have received so much media? Teams will look to block that supply. That will mean space for the CMs probably, Keita, Henderson + Ox would be my first choices to break into those spaces, however, with Lallana a possible to be out the door i think we would be wise to get one more in.

It's very difficult for us to get the type of midfielders we need so perhaps it'll not happen. Just think we need to be ready for everything next year.
 

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What about Philipp Max as someone who could offer cover for Robertson and also versatile to add depth elsewhere? Would probably cost around £20m?

I know nothing of him but transfermarkt suggested as a comparable player to Nico Schulz (who I was prompted to look at by the post in the summer transfer thread).
 

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What about Philipp Max as someone who could offer cover for Robertson and also versatile to add depth elsewhere? Would probably cost around £20m?

I know nothing of him but transfermarkt suggested as a comparable player to Nico Schulz (who I was prompted to look at by the post in the summer transfer thread).
A quick google tells me he already has two "Welcome to Manchester United" videos on Youtube, so I'd be all for signing him purely on that basis.

He also recorded 13 assists last season in the Bundesliga last season, which would suggest he poses a pretty potent left boot. Although he did drop back to only 2 this season.

I'm sure our German forum members will be able to elaborate more, but on paper he seems like the exact kind of signing we'd be likely to make.
 

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I'd have no problems with Max personally. Solid player, good attitude from what I've seen of him.
The difference in assists to the previous season might have more to do with the shift to a more defensive system Augsburg (had to) do this season.
Could be a decent backup imo.
 

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I'd have no problems with Max personally. Solid player, good attitude from what I've seen of him.
The difference in assists to the previous season might have more to do with the shift to a more defensive system Augsburg (had to) do this season.
Could be a decent backup imo.
Is he quick? Do you think he would have the stamina needed of our full-backs to get up and down for pretty much the whole 90 minutes?
 

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Fabinho, Naby Keïta, and Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain.

I would also politely suggest that better control of matches is one of the major differences between 17/18 and 18/19.
And I'd agree with you. You can see glimpses of it when the right players are together. But... how often has it been and is it reliable?

Those players you named are perfect for their positions, but that's it. There's a big drop off in quality and no ability to rotate without a major compromise
 

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Is he quick? Do you think he would have the stamina needed of our full-backs to get up and down for pretty much the whole 90 minutes?
He's not exactly a speed merchant. As far as stamina - it's so hard to tell, because the way Augsburg plays and the way we play is so massively different, no idea if he could cope with that tbh.
Anway, not sure how likely this is...are there any rumours or are you just asking out of interest?
 

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.... and theirs wouldn't work in our side.
Of course they would, and klopp would have them in a heartbeat. Seriously, who do you think he'd turn away in favour of Milner and Henderson?

Keep a straight face while you type.

He's worked incredibly with what he's got, it doesn't means it's what he ultimately wants.
It's ridiculous to think a top class manager would hand pick those two to fill any role in a first choice midfield, from all of the talent in the world game.

He absolutely will have identified the lack of creativity and control in the midfield and he will know that of every area of our team, that's where we need more.

He will also know that this is the only area left where there's a big difference in strength between us and city
 

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He's not exactly a speed merchant. As far as stamina - it's so hard to tell, because the way Augsburg plays and the way we play is so massively different, no idea if he could cope with that tbh.
Anway, not sure how likely this is...are there any rumours or are you just asking out of interest?
Yeah, just out of interest (hence this thread rather than the rumour one) - I vaguely remember the name from a few years back but was prompted to look at him when I was looking at Nico Schulz's transfermarkt profile. Max appears to be fairly versatile, doesn't have a chequered injury history and contributes good numbers re goals+assists. He's also a good age.

One thing I queried was his lack of international caps - I thought maybe his stats were misleading about his quality?

Thanks for the response though - as I say, I know nothing about him!
 

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Of course they would, and klopp would have them in a heartbeat. Seriously, who do you think he'd turn away in favour of Milner and Henderson?

Keep a straight face while you type.

He's worked incredibly with what he's got, it doesn't means it's what he ultimately wants.
It's ridiculous to think a top class manager would hand pick those two to fill any role in a first choice midfield, from all of the talent in the world game.

He absolutely will have identified the lack of creativity and control in the midfield and he will know that of every area of our team, that's where we need more.

He will also know that this is the only area left where there's a big difference in strength between us and city
Yeah the midfield is so crap it's the last area of the team he's waited to fix.
Of course if your picking from the world pool of players you would have other players in there but we're not are we?
Henderson is so bad that a long list of managers/coaches continue to play him.
 

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Yeah the midfield is so crap it's the last area of the team he's waited to fix.
Of course if your picking from the world pool of players you would have other players in there but we're not are we?
Henderson is so bad that a long list of managers/coaches continue to play him.
Hmm.. some dubious logic there.. and an exaggerated truth. A "Long list" ?

... Ok

Klopps only been here a short while, and when he came we had coutinho, arguably the best player of his type in world football, in such devastating form that the best team on the continent chose to break their transfer record to sign him. Engage your brain a bit buddy. And swerve the childishness.

And yes... Liverpool are now in a position where we very much are looking with some authority at all the players in the world... especially if we win the champions league.

This is a good thing btw. Embrace it
 

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Hmm.. some dubious logic there.. and an exaggerated truth. A "Long list" ?

... Ok

Klopps only been here a short while, and when he came we had coutinho, arguably the best player of his type in world football, in such devastating form that the best team on the continent chose to break their transfer record to sign him. Engage your brain a bit buddy. And swerve the childishness.
Pot, kettle, black.
 

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Spoken like someone who's never used induction technology.


Prepare for the future.

The upgrades are coming.....
 

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Rafa Guerrero
Recently thought about him, a year left on his deal. Though he didn't play LB a lot in recent times, was used more on the left of midfield or central midfield in his first season. Last season missed quite a bit through injury. Could be an option due to his quality, versatility and contract situation.
 

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Liverpool:
Fab, Gini, Hendo, Milly, Ox, Keita, Lallana,

City:
Fernadino, B Silva, D Silva, KDB, Gundogan, Delph, Folden

Barcelona (Best team on continent***):
Busquets, Vidal, Arthur, Rakitic, Rafinha, Alena, Coutino

For OUR system, it's hard for me to believe that Klopp has not already shaped his midfield to be what he wants. I believe Keita is the long term replacement for milly, and maybe we see someone come in for Lallana if he wants to leave, but it is hard for me to stomach the fact that many here think this midfield isn't what Klopp visualizes it to be. Personally, I would only take 2 maybe 3 from the list (other teams) above, and that would be to eventually replace Milly and Lallana. They may not be the most "technically" gifted midfield in the world, but I would bet money they are the most disciplined.


I agree with @ILLOK. An addition can improve, but I don't think the situation is as dire as @Mousecat makes it out to be. Mind you, Gini and Hendo have played the most amount of games in MF the last 3 years. 2 CL finals and averaging 83 points a season in the PL.
 

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Killjoy Pearce at his best yet again
Bonfire pisser said anything about Havertz, Sanchez, Brandt, etc?
What we should do is buy Kai Havertz and just loan him back for 1 year then when Milners contract ends bring Havertz in or when Lallana leaves
That loan option didn't work out for Keita properly. And that didn't work out for Pulisic either.
And sometimes Klopp takes half a season to introduce a player.
So it's better to keep the player here, rather than keeping him on loan somewhere else.
 

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Since Fabinho has settled and Henderson moved forward our midfield has been excellent, not lacking in creativity or control in the slightest.
"Not lacking in the slightest" is very close or the same as saying we can't improve.

If theres nothing we lack, even slightly, then what we've got is as good as it gets.

Henderson isn't anywhere near as bad as he looks in the deeper role where more on the functionality of the team revolves around him, but that he looks better in the advanced role doesn't mean he's good enough. He's better yes, but not the standard we should be looking at.

In a nutshell, are you saying there aren't players who are a significant upgrade on Henderson in that role?

It took a long time for a lot of our fans to realise he wasnt good enough for the midfield role. This seems like groundhog day.
 

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I never said we can't or shouldn't upgrade. I subscribe to Paisley's ideas:
A player isn't finished when he leaves Liverpool, he's just finished at Liverpool. And, I believe in letting a player's legs grow old on someone else's pitch.
That said our midfield is no way the state claptrap I mean Mousecat is making it out to be.
 

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"Not lacking in the slightest" is very close or the same as saying we can't improve.

If theres nothing we lack, even slightly, then what we've got is as good as it gets.

Henderson isn't anywhere near as bad as he looks in the deeper role where more on the functionality of the team revolves around him, but that he looks better in the advanced role doesn't mean he's good enough. He's better yes, but not the standard we should be looking at.

In a nutshell, are you saying there aren't players who are a significant upgrade on Henderson in that role?

It took a long time for a lot of our fans to realise he wasnt good enough for the midfield role. This seems like groundhog day.
There are very few players who would be a slight up grade on Henderson!
Please do list the players who you think would be a significant upgrade on Henderson. Just so that I can have a laugh.