Henderson is already a squad player and a very useful one at that.
I believe this lad, twenty years old on the 12 August, and standing 1.89m (6ft 2ins) on his bare feet, is a player for both now and the future.
No neither can i. And im not about calling for his sale. How I see his situation going is him being gradually phased out of the first team more as the squad gets better, wanting first team football, then klopp saying he won't stand in his way.
I can't see us buying another CB unless one is due to be offloaded. Lovren is the most likely candidate but he needs to be persuaded to go (assuming JK wants rid) and still has 2 years left on his contract. From what I've seen I would rate Gomez above de Ligt and he was genuinely unlucky with his injury last season so I don't buy the 'injury-prone' argument when it is applied to him. We also need to factor in Hoever, maybe not for next season but certainly the season after that. He has the potential to be better than the pair of them. If we do spend a lot of money on a player this summer it is likely to be in a forward role rather than a defensive one, I'd have thought.
It's about his level at the age of 19. He's at least the same level as those at 23 playing for top clubs.
Anyone that plays alongside Virgil for that matter. That partnership will be good.
Right, I get that he is considered a top prospect, but my point is that I don't see that level of performance from him yet. From what I see is not yet on a par with Gomez or Matip, and not even really that close. If that analysis is true, then it has to temper what the expectations of him at liverpool would be, and I dont know that is congruoous with the sort of transfer fee it would take to land him.
When you say that you don't see a level of performance in de Ligt, I cast your mind back to those questioning the inclusion of Robbo. What the hell is he doing in our side, him from relegated Hull City? Well, that question has well and truly been answered. @Limiescouse , you mention Gomez and Matip being, presumably, ahead of de Ligt, and yet they just weren't cutting it until they paired up with Virgil. Matthijs de Ligt has already played with Virgil and can only get better. It must also be remembered that at 19 years he already has 15 full international caps (that's if the Dutch award them). I think if we could afford him then it's a no-brainer that we should buy him.
It's about how good he will be after a couple of seasons under virg or even pique for Barcelona. The market is inflated now and so are the prices. It is indeed speculation but a Gomez if he was signed at the age of 19 from a top 6 club and not from charlton then would have been around 30m then too.
I dont think the analogy is a good one. I dont know how many people had watched Robbo, and so most of the criticisms were based on the idea that we should be aiming higher than a player "no one has heard of" from a relegated team. They were not based on a rationale judgement of his ability. FWIW, as soon as the links were made I was fully on board. My issue with De Ligt is the 5 or 6 times I have seen him this season I do not see the player other people seem to think they are seeing.
I don't think any judgement was made on his ability, it was more that he was coming from a relegated club, so inferring his ability couldn't be good enough for our club. In regards to de Ligt, we are talking of a recognised international player who is being selected on a regular basis. I would like to see him signed for our club and only the transfer fee would be an obstacle to his possible signing.
Transfer fee and his wages too. I'd say his wages demands more.
Yeah, as I remarked in an earlier post, it would only be the costs involved in signing de Ligt that would put Klopp off from getting him - that's if our manager is interested in getting another central defender.
So are you agreeing that it isn't a fitting analogy?
Agree in that Robbo wasn't at the time a recognised international whereas de Ligt is, but the only point I was making is that the Dutchman would fit into our back line really well and only the high cost of his signature would be a stumbling block in us getting him - and of course Klopp wanting him.
Do you think de Ligt's cost would be too exorbitant for our money chest?
lol lol In for a penny, as they say.
Absolutely agree with you although there will be those who will point to the money that was spent on bringing Virgil van Dijk to the club.
If we are talking about Lovren, I have never made any pretence in thinking the man as a footballer is nothing but a pile of crap and not the world's greatest centre back as he believes himself to be. I would sell the bugger in a heartbeat - and at a knockdown price just to get quickly rid of the crap fecker.
I'm talking about the over the top narrative of Gomez being written off as injury prone,does my fucking head in,he's quality and buying the Dutch kid would be writing Joe Gomez off which i think is stupid.
He's not Moreno though is he,some would have you believe Lovren is as bad as Moreno,that's complete bollocks.
No, Joe Gomez is too good to be written off. If de Ligt was brought into the club I can see nothing but good coming from it. Competition for places is the name of the game for bringing a team on and I would say Joe would relish proving he was as good if not better than the young Dutchman. Again, I say a big no to Gomez being written off.