Who would you buy?

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That Ben Shepherd fella who plays in the charity matches has got to be worth a punt. Can come on and help see the game out if we're 1 up with 10 minutes to go.
Really like him on 'Tipping Point' too, especially when he gets all 'touchy feely' at the end, the soft cunt.
 

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If we were to buy this guy then I wouldn't get too attached to him because he seems the sort that would be attracted / attractive to RM and Barca. If he came to us and turned out to be as good as Suarez or Coutinho then we'd probably be making a big profit 2 or 3 years from now. I'm not saying that just because he's from South America, but he seems to be a more spectacular player than say Firmino or Fabhino and so would probably catch the eye more.
Well, tbh I think he has never spoken about going to Real Madrid/Barcelona or whatever. He always speaks about going to a big european club and we fit the bill. Also, I think we are in a new reality at this moment. WE are the end club, we will lift trophies for a few years and everybody wants to play for Liverpool. Things are changing, imo. EPL is the best league in the world, there's a fair amount of Brazilians too. Bear in mind that there's no more Ronaldo, Rivaldo, Romário or Ronaldinho playing in Spain and we used to watch Spanish football (Real Madrid/Barcelona) because of them.

Funny thing there's a Brazilian player called Jean Pyerre, who I think will be the next biggest Brazilian number 8 and he simply LOVES Liverpool. He said in an interview that if he were to choose, he would go for Liverpool because he loves our playstyle and he is a big fan of Firmino and Klopp. Too bad though he is kinda of an Ozil style, amazing technique, ridiculous vision, long range pass, he could pass the ball where he wants the way he wants, but he is not very intense defending. It's not like he is not hardworking, he tries too be, but let's say he would fit a possession team a little bit more. Would be perfect for a tiki-taka style. But he loves Liverpool, watches games and stuff like that.
 

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Well, tbh I think he has never spoken about going to Real Madrid/Barcelona or whatever. He always speaks about going to a big european club and we fit the bill. Also, I think we are in a new reality at this moment. WE are the end club, we will lift trophies for a few years and everybody wants to play for Liverpool. Things are changing, imo. EPL is the best league in the world, there's a fair amount of Brazilians too. Bear in mind that there's no more Ronaldo, Rivaldo, Romário or Ronaldinho playing in Spain and we used to watch Spanish football (Real Madrid/Barcelona) because of them.

Funny thing there's a Brazilian player called Jean Pyerre, who I think will be the next biggest Brazilian number 8 and he simply LOVES Liverpool. He said in an interview that if he were to choose, he would go for Liverpool because he loves our playstyle and he is a big fan of Firmino and Klopp. Too bad though he is kinda of an Ozil style, amazing technique, ridiculous vision, long range pass, he could pass the ball where he wants the way he wants, but he is not very intense defending. It's not like he is not hardworking, he tries too be, but let's say he would fit a possession team a little bit more. Would be perfect for a tiki-taka style. But he loves Liverpool, watches games and stuff like that.
That would be nice to believe, but I don't think we are there yet. You can't say "we are the end club" and then say "lift trophies for a few years and everybody wants to play for Liverpool". Right now only the second part of that is true. Win the PL and maybe win the CL again and then we start to be seen as being on a level footing with RM and Barca.
 

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Not sure about that. But if there are any concerns over who scored, Kane will be claiming it. For sure.
Kane, the poor lamb, still taking stick for being a conniving, greedy and, some might say, cheating barsteward. Upshot was, he still didn't win the golden boot -- SAD SACK.
 

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Well, tbh I think he has never spoken about going to Real Madrid/Barcelona or whatever. He always speaks about going to a big european club and we fit the bill. Also, I think we are in a new reality at this moment. WE are the end club, we will lift trophies for a few years and everybody wants to play for Liverpool. Things are changing, imo. EPL is the best league in the world, there's a fair amount of Brazilians too. Bear in mind that there's no more Ronaldo, Rivaldo, Romário or Ronaldinho playing in Spain and we used to watch Spanish football (Real Madrid/Barcelona) because of them.
Its a fair point, we probably have the most concentrated group of top tier Brazilian footballers in Europe, play lovely football, are winning things, so you can understand why we are becoming a very very attractive destination.

I really hope we continue to use it to attract the best samba stars.
 

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Just out of interest, with Rashford out of contract next summer, if he doesn't sign a new deal, would you sign him for Liverpool (assuming he would accept a wage in line with the club)?
 

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I'd have Rashford at Liverpool in a heartbeat, I never hid that. We as fans tend to belittle him and other Man United players as it is our default setting but he really is something special. It was just a matter of time before Solskjaer recognised that Rashford was much more suitable to build a team around than Lukaku, it's only natural that they want to make him a key part of their side. That said, 250K per week... He's a generational talent, at least in England, but that's too much for a 21-year old, no matter how good he is.
 

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I'd have Rashford at Liverpool in a heartbeat, I never hid that. We as fans tend to belittle him and other Man United players as it is our default setting but he really is something special. It was just a matter of time before Solskjaer recognised that Rashford was much more suitable to build a team around than Lukaku, it's only natural that they want to make him a key part of their side. That said, 250K per week... He's a generational talent, at least in England, but that's too much for a 21-year old, no matter how good he is.

So apparently its 300k a week :shocked:, but yeah I'd have him here no problem , I'd have Martial also. I just think it's crazy money for a hugely inconsistent player as talented as he is, he has so much to work on. When you consider that Mo is on 200k and VVD possibly the next Ballon D'Or winner even less it's just another sign of how well run we are and how much better value we get even in terms of wages.
 

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Just out of interest, with Rashford out of contract next summer, if he doesn't sign a new deal, would you sign him for Liverpool (assuming he would accept a wage in line with the club)?
It would never happen. There's an impenetrable wall between the transferring of players of Manure and us, which is just as thick as the one dividing us from the Bitters. It takes a really strong-willed player to go against the beliefs and wishes of their club's supporters.
 

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I'd have Rashford at Liverpool in a heartbeat, I never hid that. We as fans tend to belittle him and other Man United players as it is our default setting but he really is something special. It was just a matter of time before Solskjaer recognised that Rashford was much more suitable to build a team around than Lukaku, it's only natural that they want to make him a key part of their side. That said, 250K per week... He's a generational talent, at least in England, but that's too much for a 21-year old, no matter how good he is.
Not sure I agree that Rashford is a generational talent (he's good but not quite that level) or that £250k/week is too much for a 21yr old regardless of how good they are (Mbappe's worth paying that and he's 20*).

If we didn't have Brewster I'd happily take Rashford on a free. He's a good player, versatile, quick, direct, got potential for further improvement and seems to have a good head on his shoulders. Taking a rare youth player to break through at United for nothing would also be pretty satisfying.

*Nobody's actually worth that but this is the obscene world of football
 

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I'd have Rashford at Liverpool in a heartbeat, I never hid that. We as fans tend to belittle him and other Man United players as it is our default setting but he really is something special. It was just a matter of time before Solskjaer recognised that Rashford was much more suitable to build a team around than Lukaku, it's only natural that they want to make him a key part of their side. That said, 250K per week... He's a generational talent, at least in England, but that's too much for a 21-year old, no matter how good he is.
How good Lukaku is has been totally forgotten in this one season on a mediocre team poorly suited for him that still he led in goals. He had 59 goals and 19 assists in the PL in the three seasons before that when he was a regular starter. I'll take bets on Rashford to average 20 goals and 6 assists the next 3 league seasons, and score 34+ national team goals as Lukaku also did in 2016-2018.

Man U clearly mismanaged him, but he's a really good player. Assuming he goes to Inter, he could put them back where they should be: in the top two and bothering Juve for top spot, maybe even getting it. And he's still just 26 years old. Man U selling him for 60-70M and in the same year giving Rashford 10M+ in wages (probably total contract value similar to what they'll get from selling big rom) says everything about how they're run. No complaints here.
 
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How good Lukaku is has been totally forgotten in this one season on a mediocre team poorly suited for him that still he led in goals. He had 59 goals and 19 assists in the PL in the three seasons before that when he was a regular starter. I'll take bets on Rashford to average 20 goals and 6 assists the next 3 league seasons, and score 34+ national team goals as Lukaku also did in 2016-2018.

Man U clearly mismanaged him, but he's a really good player. Assuming he goes to Inter, he could put them back where they should be: in the top two and bothering Juve for top spot, maybe even getting it. And he's still just 26 years old. Man U selling him for 60-70M and in the same year giving Rashford 10M+ in wages says everything about how they're run. No complaints here.
He is good, but I feel like he's a player who will only flourish in a team that's set up to play a certain way. I think there could also be fitness or conditioning issues as he's looking so heavy now and seems far less mobile than he used to.

As to whether it's better if he stays or goes, I think it depends who United bring in to replace him. If it's no-one then good, but if they bring in someone like (for the sake of argument) Icardi, then it might be I'd have preferred Lukaku to have stayed, bearing in mind how ordinary he's looked for them.
 
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He is good, but I feel like he's a player who will only flourish in a team that's set up to play a certain way. I think there could also be fitness or conditioning issues as he's looking so heavy now is seems far less mobile than he used to.

As to whether it's better if he stays or goes, I think it depends who United bring in to replace him. If it's no-one then good, but if they bring in someone like (for the sake of argument) Icardi, then it might be I'd have preferred Lukaku to have stayed, bearing in mind how ordinary he's looked for them.
And also how awesome Icardi is, amirite?
 

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He is good, but I feel like he's a player who will only flourish in a team that's set up to play a certain way. I think there could also be fitness or conditioning issues as he's looking so heavy now is seems far less mobile than he used to.

As to whether it's better if he stays or goes, I think it depends who United bring in to replace him. If it's no-one then good, but if they bring in someone like (for the sake of argument) Icardi, then it might be I'd have preferred Lukaku to have stayed, bearing in mind how ordinary he's looked for them.
Players flourish in setups that work for them. Firmino would struggle playing for some managers. Trent would have had a hard time getting into the team under a manager less focused on creating pressure from attack.

But Rashford isnt a great build up player either, if that's the complaint with Rom.

The question for them wasn't if Lukaku was a great player, but if he was good enough to be worth starting at man u I this season. I think he was. As for durability, he's missed rather few games in his career so I wouldn't share that concern.

I think they'll have a hard time getting better value for him than they're giving up.
 

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I'd have Rashford at Liverpool in a heartbeat, I never hid that. We as fans tend to belittle him and other Man United players as it is our default setting but he really is something special. It was just a matter of time before Solskjaer recognised that Rashford was much more suitable to build a team around than Lukaku, it's only natural that they want to make him a key part of their side. That said, 250K per week... He's a generational talent, at least in England, but that's too much for a 21-year old, no matter how good he is.
 

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Players flourish in setups that work for them. Firmino would struggle playing for some managers. Trent would have had a hard time getting into the team under a manager less focused on creating pressure from attack.

But Rashford isnt a great build up player either, if that's the complaint with Rom.

The question for them wasn't if Lukaku was a great player, but if he was good enough to be worth starting at man u I this season. I think he was. As for durability, he's missed rather few games in his career so I wouldn't share that concern.

I think they'll have a hard time getting better value for him than they're giving up.
Wasn't thinking about durability so much, more his weight and mobility. Not sure if it's diet (I'm not going to make a cheap joke about being fat, though), or he's been hitting the weights too much, either way he's been less effective for them partly due to management but also just through that sort of physical change.

Really, I'll be happy if he stays as I think next season, at United, will be more of the same for him (I think Italy would be a good move and he'll probably regain his previous form elsewhere, agree on that), and equally I'll be happy if he goes and they build around Rashford, who I think is good, but not that good. Worst-case really is they sell Lukaku and replace him with someone who'll actually be a good focal point for their attack.
 

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Wasn't thinking about durability so much, more his weight and mobility. Not sure if it's diet (I'm not going to make a cheap joke about being fat, though), or he's been hitting the weights too much, either way he's been less effective for them partly due to management but also just through that sort of physical change.

Really, I'll be happy if he stays as I think next season, at United, will be more of the same for him (I think Italy would be a good move and he'll probably regain his previous form elsewhere, agree on that), and equally I'll be happy if he goes and they build around Rashford, who I think is good, but not that good. Worst-case really is they sell Lukaku and replace him with someone who'll actually be a good focal point for their attack.
Who can they get to be that though? I don't think there's anyone on the planet they could sign to make them top 2 next year, so if they want to pay out on a 30 year old Aubameyang and make that their next long contract problem after maybe a good year next year, be my guest. Wissam Ben Yedder is 29, that doesn't scare me. Spend 100M on a Griezmann that doesn't really want to play there? Or 50 on Callum Wilson or Ayoze Perez who would? None of that sounds better than Lukaku could be.

They're just not in a strong position right now.
 

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Who can they get to be that though? I don't think there's anyone on the planet they could sign to make them top 2 next year, so if they want to pay out on a 30 year old Aubameyang and make that their next long contract problem after maybe a good year next year, be my guest. Wissam Ben Yedder is 29, that doesn't scare me. Spend 100M on a Griezmann that doesn't really want to play there? Or 50 on Callum Wilson or Ayoze Perez who would? None of that sounds better than Lukaku could be.

They're just not in a strong position right now.
Yeah, I'd agree with that take. It was a hypothetical really as opposed to a genuine concern.