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Senegalese-American athlete Tacko Fall, as cover for Origi
I won't rush to judge these kids on the account of a good game against Tranmere but I have been convinced for quite a while that Hoever and Brewster would be getting some decent minutes over the next two seasons - in Hoever's case at right back before becoming a centre back. Now, I'm not so sure he will become a centre back in the future, his physical and technical traits look so much better suited to that position than Gomez'.I think we can see that Hoever will get game time at RB this season and I don't think Liverpool are worried about using him as the primary back up to Trent.
Larouci and Lewis had a good pre-season appearance - we will see if they can keep it up when they go to the USA. It seems clear our plan is Robertson > Milner > ?. I think if Larouci and Lewis aren't deemed ready then Gomez will fill in there.
Brewster has been talked up so much by Klopp that we can be fairly sure he will be given a first team place.
I would be surprised if we sign anyone else.
I agree, he glides over the pitch. Seems to have huge technical ability as well. Gomez whilst silky in possession he is no Trent, Hoever is much more similar (and suits us far more than Clyne - irrespective of his goal, he always looks awkward in possession).I won't rush to judge these kids on the account of a good game against Tranmere but I have been convinced for quite a while that Hoever and Brewster would be getting some decent minutes over the next two seasons - in Hoever's case at right back before becoming a centre back. Now, I'm not so sure he will become a centre back in the future, his physical and technical traits look so much better suited to that position than Gomez'.
*cough* Virgil *cough*4-3-3
Alisson
TAA Matip Gomez Robertson
Ox Fabinho Wijnaldum
Salah Firmino Mané
4-3-1-2
Mignolet
KJH Lovren Gomez Larouci
Keita Henderson Milner
Shaqiri
Brewster Origi
Didn't even use Clyne and Lallana. The second lineup should be strong enough to beat non PL sides in the domestic cups.
Fixed. Thanks.*cough* Virgil *cough*
While we may not have the big pile of cash we had when selling Coutinho to re-invest, there is easily enough money there for at least one good signing to match our club record, or more at lower prices without FSG dipping into their pockets which suggests that it isnt a money issue but a deliberate decision by Klopp - unless you think Edwards has lost his magic touch and cant find anyone good enough to strengthen our squad.And yes, to me it very much looks like the 2018 spending was a purely Coutinho fuelled bonanza and that FSG are now in the dividend collection phase of their tenure, via FSM cuts of commercial deals.
Maybe this summer's frugality is because the club won't be getting the full £142m for Coutinho, most likely the £105m without add-ons that would have come only if he stays at Barce.
Team | GP | W | D | L | GF | GA | GD | PTS |
Manchester City | 38 | 32 | 2 | 4 | 95 | 23 | 72 | 98 |
Liverpool | 38 | 30 | 7 | 1 | 89 | 22 | 67 | 97 |
Pos | Team | P | W | D | L | GF | GA | GD | Pts |
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Or just not concede the 1 against City.Here is the PL table 2018-2019
Team GP W D L GF GA GD PTS Manchester City 38 32 2 4 95 23 72 98 Liverpool 38 30 7 1 89 22 67 97
vs
PL table 2017-2018
Pos Team P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Most of our improvement is down to our defense but our GF stat also increased by 5. However, that was not nearly enough. City's GF of 95 was actually a drop of 11 from the previous year and we should not expect them to do anything other than increase it this season. So, to win the league, we will probably need a GF (assuming our defense remains as good as it is) of at least 95. We need to find 6 more goals than last season that turn a few draws into wins.
It really was that close, wasn't it. As much as anything else, I feel like our priority has to be to improve our league H2H against them next season. A win and ours and draw at theirs would do very nicely, and shouldn't be beyond us.Or just not concede the 1 against City.
I don't get the narrative that City will be as good next season, they are currently replacing the core of their team which cannot be underestimated at how that can impact on performance and those last minute winners etc.Here is the PL table 2018-2019
Team GP W D L GF GA GD PTS Manchester City 38 32 2 4 95 23 72 98 Liverpool 38 30 7 1 89 22 67 97
vs
PL table 2017-2018
Pos Team P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Most of our improvement is down to our defense but our GF stat also increased by 5. However, that was not nearly enough. City's GF of 95 was actually a drop of 11 from the previous year and we should not expect them to do anything other than increase it this season. So, to win the league, we will probably need a GF (assuming our defense remains as good as it is) of at least 95. We need to find 6 more goals than last season that turn a few draws into wins.
Why do you do this?Now that Klopp has confirmed that there won't be any major signings this summer, I'll comment again.
It's great to see such promising youngsters in action, and the need to invest is lessened by the youngsters coming through.
But investment in players ready to compete for best 11 places against all levels of opposition is still needed, and it's a mistake not to sign anyone.
A squad built to compete even if you get injuries to key players, needs to have like for like alternatives who are able to play many matches in succession, including against top sides, at a time when you have no choice. Players who are merely good enough to play when you choose and against who you choose is not a squad built to compete regardless of injuries.
Even if Brewster is the mercurial new boy, and is going to contribute more this season than the declining Sturridge did last season, and even if Origi is reborn and is a solid back up, it doesn't mean you don't buy a proven 4th quality forward of a similar level to the front three, so as to ensure your competitiveness.
Shaqiri is at his peak and has never shown in his career to date an ability to play regularly for a top side. Lallana is declining and rarely available. We could easily have upgraded one of those two.
If Bobby, Mo or Mane get injured or fatigued and are out a month or more, results will suffer if the only back ups are Origi, Brewster and Shaqiri, especially if key matches are involved.
This is not to say the club isn't in a good place, nor that we won't improve in certain areas, especially in midfield with Fabinho fully settled, Keita 12 months into his Anfield career and Oxlade back.
But there are clear issues - the lack of full back rotation, the injury prone nature of centre backs, the lack of a lock picker in attacking midfield, and - above all - the lack of a summer off for the front three and the lack of a proven similar level alternative to them.
It's really disappointing that the club waited a decade to become European top dogs and then chose not to leverage it by way of top signings.
And yes, to me it very much looks like the 2018 spending was a purely Coutinho fuelled bonanza and that FSG are now in the dividend collection phase of their tenure, via FSM cuts of commercial deals.
Maybe this summer's frugality is because the club won't be getting the full £142m for Coutinho, most likely the £105m without add-ons that would have come only if he stays at Barce.
You've only got to read the LFC News, aka Liverpool Echo, to see LFC's spin machine utilising its cosy relationship with the likes of Doyle to justify the lack of transfer activity, with improved player contracts and returning players cited as new signings.
Listen, we will compete, we will win some trophies, but if we're talking about winning everything possible from the position we were in on the morning of June 2nd, that for me is undoubtedly compromised by the club's failure to add at least one proven quality best 11 level player this summer.
That's all I'm going to say for now, even if people reply.
Have you considered that maybe a big reason for the position the club is in is because the manager has staunchly refused to treat his players like disposable assets, bin off five a year and poison team spirit?It's really disappointing that the club waited a decade to become European top dogs and then chose not to leverage it by way of top signings.
Have you considered that maybe a big reason for the position the club is in is because the manager has staunchly refused to treat his players like disposable assets, bin off five a year and poison team spirit?
Agree wholeheartedly, but argument could be countermade for saying that Origi last season - sitting quietly and stepping in when needed, as well as banging in some vital goals against Everton, Barca, and Spurs in the Final - earned a crack at that role. And then there's Brewster, who signed a new deal with us on the promise that the club gave him a fair crack of the whip.I think an argument could be made for a quality, versatile attacker to add proper depth up front, and we may still do that, but it's really nice to finally be in a position where we're talking about 'nice to haves' rather than 'must-haves'.
Also agree. I think our hesitation to bring in an attacking player is all about Brewster. If he doesn't live up to his billing, I think we look in Jan or next summer for depth. If he does, only Mbappe next year lolAgree wholeheartedly, but argument could be countermade for saying that Origi last season - sitting quietly and stepping in when needed, as well as banging in some vital goals against Everton, Barca, and Spurs in the Final - earned a crack at that role. And then there's Brewster, who signed a new deal with us on the promise that the club gave him a fair crack of the whip.
No, Brewster plays centrally. The club have said they're looking for a forward who can play flexibly.Also agree. I think our hesitation to bring in an attacking player is all about Brewster. If he doesn't live up to his billing, I think we look in Jan or next summer for depth. If he does, only Mbappe next year lol
When did club say that? All the usual club mouthpieces saying not much happening.No, Brewster plays centrally. The club have said they're looking for a forward who can play flexibly.
They did say last season though Brewster was part of the reason they weren't looking for a 9 then.