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Jesus, but they often start without Sané too. Hope Brewster will be the real deal but he is still unproven.
Sane is the real deal so I am not arguing there but I see him starting more this year with D Silva getting phased out pushing B Silva to MF and opening a winger spot, now to Jesus

In the EPL/CL Jesus (22 years old) played 1395 mins and scored 11 goals and 3 assists (I ignored the two domestic cups because of the shit competition)

This results in 1 goal every 127 mins played or 1 key (goal or assist) every 100 mins.

Divock's stats (24 years old) 6 Goals and 1 assist in 583 mins played in EPL/CL

Results in 1 goal every 97 mins and 1 key (goal or assist) every 83 mins.

I know how stats work and sample sizes are drastically different, but I am one of those who don't rate Jesus highly. I think he's an athletic talented forward who has temper issues which cause him to lose composure. I also believe he's a flat track bully who beats up on less talented teams. Last year he scored against Huddersfield, Everton (3 times, guess I do like him more for that), Wolves, and Palace (1 of two away goals).

I just don't classify him as elite (aka no drop off between him and Aguero) because what Aguero does for that club is truly unreal. Reminds me a lot of a certain striker who used to play for us.
 

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I realise it's not a popular opinion, but both are better than Origi
Sané, Jesus and Mahrez all 'better' to our last seasons bench players Shaqiri and Origi.

Wouldn’t say that their three played a big part in winning them the league.

Our two helped us winning the CL.

Jesus cost them double the prize of Shaqiri and Origi combined. They paid £120m for Mahrez and Sane combined.

Their three were unhappy over the course of the season and thought and maybe are still thinking about leaving.

Our two delivered whenever we needed them.
 

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Yea but I was what happens if we get long injuries, that is my point. Four WC attackers are not strange for a top club as Liverpool is.
I‘m relaxed.

The manager would find solutions. We all know that.

Injuries to one player mean opportunities for others.
 

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Theres been a lot of stuff said about us falling behind if we dont buy but if city lose Sane I would deffo say they have got weaker. Him and Sterling are the 2 players they have with the lightning pace. They will still win the vast majority of games but defending against them may be easier with one less player with scary pace. Could cost them a couple of points through the season.
All wishful thinking of course but we lost the league by small percentage last year maybe we can win it by a small percentage this year
 

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What's all this about everybody else improving?

Chelsea have lost their best player, Tottenham's defence looks like it's getting ripped up and City have lost Kompany and Delph, bringing in Angelino and Rodri.

Where is the major improvement?

United and Arsenal are too far away to care about. Everton will spend the GDP of a small African nation and will manage to go backwards.

We have had players return from loan and injury to bolster the squad. The players who were bought last season will be ready from day one this season, particularly Fabinho but also Keita should be in a better position to contribute, and you could include Origi and Shaqiri in that group too. Bernardo's improvement from season 1 to 2 is the most obvious example of this.
 

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What's all this about everybody else improving?

Chelsea have lost their best player, Tottenham's defence looks like it's getting ripped up and City have lost Kompany and Delph, bringing in Angelino and Rodri.

Where is the major improvement?

United and Arsenal are too far away to care about. Everton will spend the GDP of a small African nation and will manage to go backwards.

We have had players return from loan and injury to bolster the squad. The players who were bought last season will be ready from day one this season, particularly Fabinho but also Keita should be in a better position to contribute, and you could include Origi and Shaqiri in that group too. Bernardo's improvement from season 1 to 2 is the most obvious example of this.
Yea Kompany is massive for them, its almost like losing Van Dijk for them I'd say. They've been trying the find his replacement for years with no luck. Plus, hopefully losing Sane too.
Hilarious that Peps whinging about not having money to spend ha maybe if you hadn't of bought 150 mills worth of full backs last year you'd have some money left you daft c*nt.
Just holding on to our best players would be a massive step in the right direction for us though and as you say, players are already bedded in plus Ox is back. It really is looking like we are in the driving seat this year
 

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Yea Kompany is massive for them, its almost like losing Van Dijk for them I'd say. They've been trying the find his replacement for years with no luck. Plus, hopefully losing Sane too.
Hilarious that Peps whinging about not having money to spend ha maybe if you hadn't of bought 150 mills worth of full backs last year you'd have some money left you daft c*nt.
Just holding on to our best players would be a massive step in the right direction for us though and as you say, players are already bedded in plus Ox is back. It really is looking like we are in the driving seat this year
While I don't think Kompany has been anything like as key for them in recent years - he's been injured so often they had to learn to mostly play without him - I think going into the season with only three senior CBs (two of which, Stones and Otamendi, are hardly top-drawer either) looks like the sort of thing that could potentially derail a season.
 

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While I don't think Kompany has been anything like as key for them in recent years - he's been injured so often they had to learn to mostly play without him - I think going into the season with only three senior CBs (two of which, Stones and Otamendi, are hardly top-drawer either) looks like the sort of thing that could potentially derail a season.
Mendy also isn’t expected to be fit for the start of the season so they either play Angelino or Laporte at LB meaning a CB pairing of Stones and Otamendi could well start the season.
 

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Mendy also isn’t expected to be fit for the start of the season so they either play Angelino or Laporte at LB meaning a CB pairing of Stones and Otamendi could well start the season.
Zinchenko?
 

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While I don't think Kompany has been anything like as key for them in recent years - he's been injured so often they had to learn to mostly play without him - I think going into the season with only three senior CBs (two of which, Stones and Otamendi, are hardly top-drawer either) looks like the sort of thing that could potentially derail a season.
I would ave said the same thing this time last year, or even at Christmas. But if you look at the last 3 months of the season I think that shows how important he continued to be for them. When it got to business time, their 50 million quid CB was not favoured and the gaffer came back in. And not only was he sensational in the pivotal game against, he also scored possibly the most important goal of the season. He exit is a MASSIVE hole for them to fill.
 

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While I don't think Kompany has been anything like as key for them in recent years - he's been injured so often they had to learn to mostly play without him - I think going into the season with only three senior CBs (two of which, Stones and Otamendi, are hardly top-drawer either) looks like the sort of thing that could potentially derail a season.
Yea he has been out a lot but he was no doubt a big presence at the club. Seemed to always come straight back in when fit which maybe indicates they feel they're weaker without him.
It'll be interesting to see how they do.

Don't understand why they weren't in for De Ligt
Haven't you heard Pep crying poverty? Quite funny really
 

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This has to be the big question of the preseason - Who WILL we buy?

We all know the names linked - so today I will pick 1 player for the 4 positions that most of us think need strengthening.

Goalie

I would tell Migs that he stays - like it or not. Klopp though will probably tell him to leave. So who would I replace him with?

We need a number 2 keeper that has experience of playing in the Premier League, a keeper that wont cost much in wages or transfer fee; a keeper that the squad will accept as a decent option if Alisson get hurt or banned.

Burnley have a good couple of keepers and I would go for Tom Heaton as Migs replacement.

Left Back

This is a tricky one, who the fuck will want to play as a second fiddle player to Robertson ? The player will need to be exceptionally good to avoid a massive drop off; the player will cost a fortune (relatively speaking for a reserve) and will only get game time in the FA & League Cups.

I wouldn't bring anyone in - We have a number of players that can do a job at left back and alternative systems whereby the left back is actually a left midfielder/winger.

Attacking Midfielder

I am worried that Ox may spend more time out hurt than available. I am not sure that Coutinho would be the best option for us. We have moved on since he left and he has moved backwards. I would bring in an experienced player that we were linked to many years ago - scores goals and can dominate long periods of a match. He will be expensive but his game will suit us. The player wants to leave his club and is more than likely available, I am not sure whether Spurs would sell him to us? Christian Erikson would be my choice.

Forward

There is only 1 player that has been linked with us that I would go for.

Timo Werner - He can play in all of the front 3 positions and scores a regular amount of goals. His work rate is exceptional and he is good enough to "threaten" the front 3 for their starting place.
 

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This has to be the big question of the preseason - Who WILL we buy?

We all know the names linked - so today I will pick 1 player for the 4 positions that most of us think need strengthening.

Goalie

I would tell Migs that he stays - like it or not. Klopp though will probably tell him to leave. So who would I replace him with?

We need a number 2 keeper that has experience of playing in the Premier League, a keeper that wont cost much in wages or transfer fee; a keeper that the squad will accept as a decent option if Alisson get hurt or banned.

Burnley have a good couple of keepers and I would go for Tom Heaton as Migs replacement.

Left Back

This is a tricky one, who the fuck will want to play as a second fiddle player to Robertson ? The player will need to be exceptionally good to avoid a massive drop off; the player will cost a fortune (relatively speaking for a reserve) and will only get game time in the FA & League Cups.

I wouldn't bring anyone in - We have a number of players that can do a job at left back and alternative systems whereby the left back is actually a left midfielder/winger.

Attacking Midfielder

I am worried that Ox may spend more time out hurt than available. I am not sure that Coutinho would be the best option for us. We have moved on since he left and he has moved backwards. I would bring in an experienced player that we were linked to many years ago - scores goals and can dominate long periods of a match. He will be expensive but his game will suit us. The player wants to leave his club and is more than likely available, I am not sure whether Spurs would sell him to us? Christian Erikson would be my choice.

Forward

There is only 1 player that has been linked with us that I would go for.

Timo Werner - He can play in all of the front 3 positions and scores a regular amount of goals. His work rate is exceptional and he is good enough to "threaten" the front 3 for their starting place.

Overoptimistic Changes
1. Reina as a backup GK, Perfect means for him to wind up his career.
2. Ryan Sessegnon as a Left sided Defender/Midfielder
3. Kai Havertz as competition for the three fwds with origi and brewster in the mix as well

Realistic Ones
1. Mignolet to stay on failing with one of the free agents as a third choice (I see Michael Vorm is available) with one of the younger guys , Kelleher/Atherton being second choice. Allison isn't gonna miss much matches and am. Good decision made on Grabara to be getting game time with Huddersfield.
2. Agree that Liverpool have to promote someone from within as no one is going to be coming here to play second fiddle to Andy. Not ones which FSG would be interested in spending the cash with anyway.
3. No one. Stick with the guys we have.
 

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Not sure, but I seem to remember our boys delivering Barcelona the kind of thumping that they may not recover from, and I’m sure that Firmino and Salah weren’t playing.
Thought that myself too. Let's not forget that Shaqiri and Origi were a full part of the team which dismantled Barca that night. For some weird reason, they aren't part of our squad depht for next season according to some, and that's before taking Brewster and maybe Wilson into the equation...

Edit: and Ox, and Lallana if he can stay fit this time.
 
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People do realise we only played one game all of last season with two out of our front 3 missing right? I know the Barca result was an amazing, perfect, performance. But people can't seriously expect that level? We had far more disappointing games when one of the three were missing or when two or all three played looking tired and jaded. It was an amazing night but it was unique. If that was really what happened every time we sat out two of our front 3 then we should be doing it practically every game.
 

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People do realise we only played one game all of last season with two out of our front 3 missing right? I know the Barca result was an amazing, perfect, performance. But people can't seriously expect that level? We had far more disappointing games when one of the three were missing or when two or all three played looking tired and jaded. It was an amazing night but it was unique. If that was really what happened every time we sat out two of our front 3 then we should be doing it practically every game.
I don't remember many disappointing games at all last season to be honest.
 

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We had far more disappointing games when one of the three were missing or when two or all three played looking tired and jaded.
Everton, United, Red Star.

That's about it, really.

The rest of the time we were sound - PSG, Porto, Barca, Spurs. Burnley away (started with none of them), Newcastle away, Wolves, Watford, Huddersfield x2,
 

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We went through a period from 03/01/19 against City till 24/02/19 against United when in 9 games we only scored more than once in 2 of them. Our attack looked tired and overplayed. We lost our only defeat in the league, drew in the champions league and went out the cup. In the 7 league games we dropped 9 points. In my eyes how tired we were over that period is what was the only thing that could have been in our power to effect and give us the league. Such a small margin but if our attack had of been fresher and given us that one extra goal in one of those draws we'd be sitting with a Premier League title to go with our Champions League title.

For instance on a game we could have won but two of our front 3 were out of form;



Or when all three had a bad day;



We want our attack at its spectacular best consistently then these three top talents need resting so they can be 100% when they take the field. Other teams can't cope with them when they do. But despite their good form with injuries they are only human. They never seem to get summers off and we literally play them into the ground every season. We will end up seeing repeats of what happened with Owen and Torres if we aren't careful.

Good BBC article:

 

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Never going to be in our control. Whether it's a level playing field or not is for another thread. When considering "who would you buy" need to look at the situation we are in and what it would take to win in the situation we are in.
The “situation we are in” is that we have the best team in the country, and quite possibly Europe. Nobody can stand still, however, and we need to strengthen in terms of depth.
 

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People do realise we only played one game all of last season with two out of our front 3 missing right? I know the Barca result was an amazing, perfect, performance. But people can't seriously expect that level? We had far more disappointing games when one of the three were missing or when two or all three played looking tired and jaded. It was an amazing night but it was unique. If that was really what happened every time we sat out two of our front 3 then we should be doing it practically every game.
I think the Barça game was a one-off like you. What happened worked via Barça's over-confident approach to defending against a second-string attack and the reverse psychology of having nothing to lose but plenty to prove in Div and Shaq's case.
 
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