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Who would you buy?

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This is in no way a kneejerk reaction, but something I have been saying for a while.
1. We don't have a backup RB or a backup LB. Milner getting old, Gomez lack of form, Hoever/Larouci too young. We can't keep playing TAA/Robbo. Else we are looking at fatigue or long time injury. We need to buy. Atleast 1 in Jan.
2. We don't have proper backup to Fab. Despite claiming Hendo/Gini can do a job there.
3. And we don't have an attacking midfielder despite claiming we have in both Ox and Keita. Both injury prone and didn't make the impact they should have for the money we spent. Approx 85m.
4. Though Mo, Mane, Origi and Brewster can do a job in the middle, we don't have any rotation option to our wingers.

So from where I sit, eventhough our first 11 is pretty decent and eventhough our squad is half decent, we don't have the squad to challenge on multiple fronts. I would think about selling Shaq, Keita, Wilson and Grujic. Think of buying cover options for LB, RB, DM, AM, LW and RW. We don't need to splash the cash, but we need to have enough bodies who can atleast get on the pitch and do a decent job.
Personally I think Hoever is the second best RB at the club and I wouldn't be worried at all about playing him, even in a major game.
Larouci isn't ready to support Robertson properly yet so I would support bringing someone in there.

It will be hard to bring in a proper back up for Fabinho, the position is so specialised that I see it as a similar conundrum to the old "Spurs can't buy a striker because no one wants to sit on the bench behind Kane". Well Fabinho is better than almost every other DM and is an immediate starter. As such I don't think Gini/Hendo "doing a job" is too big of a concern.

We don't really use attacking midfielders - we just need to work harder on getting Ox and Keita to perform to their potential. As we have seen over two seasons we can beat 95% of teams without an attacking impetus from midfield.

Agree on the lack of support for the front three. Only Origi and Shaqiri are available and Shaqiri has been out all season with his own injury. We need someone stylistically similar to our current group. Elliott is the closest in style from the Academy but, despite playing well at youth level, he doesn't have enough of a goal threat just yet.

I'd be looking for a versatile attacker and a LB.
 


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Personally I think Hoever is the second best RB at the club and I wouldn't be worried at all about playing him, even in a major game.
Larouci isn't ready to support Robertson properly yet so I would support bringing someone in there.

I'd be looking for a versatile attacker and a LB.
How long before Neco Williams is ready for being a back up for first team games?
 



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Nicolas Tagliafico from Ajax & Alex Grimaldo from Benfica pops up in few reports as having good season in LB for their club. Obviously I know nothing about them. So any one who watches them has any info on whether they will be a good fit here....
 
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I doubt Levy would sell to us then consider the cunt that is Jose is now there also we'd be wasting our time even enquiring about one of their players,tbf i wouldn't give spurs the steam off my shit.
They don't have funds to spend on anyone and I am sure they will look at selling few to raise some money, so Mou can splash.
 

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Agree we should look at a first team challenger to our forward trio. I be surprised Klopo had not looked at that but for good or bad, he is stubborn in the sense, he only wants who he wants and if he cannot get who he wants, he will work with what he already has and wait. Hopefully his patience pays either in summer or better still in Jan.

A LB would be good but I still think the above-mentioned is still the top priority purchase for us.
 

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Koulibaly. Has anyone seen him play on a regular basis? The four games he has played against us in the last fourteen months or so were fantastic. I wonder whether he plays well all the time, or only on special occasions?
 



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Koulibaly. Has anyone seen him play on a regular basis? The four games he has played against us in the last fourteen months or so were fantastic. I wonder whether he plays well all the time, or only on special occasions?
World's second best centre back over the course of past two years, in my opinion. He doesn't always play as well as in these four matches, though, but his overall level is pretty close. He'd cost more than Van Dijk, that's a certainty, and my guess is he'll end up in PSG, given he hasn't already left for the likes of Man United, Bayern or Real Madrid.
 

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World's second best centre back over the course of past two years, in my opinion. He doesn't always play as well as in these four matches, though, but his overall level is pretty close. He'd cost more than Van Dijk, that's a certainty, and my guess is he'll end up in PSG, given he hasn't already left for the likes of Man United, Bayern or Real Madrid.
Do you think so? He's twenty-eight, so at his peak probably. Surely he wouldn't cost that much? Anyway, what you say confirms what I've thought myself while seeing him play against us the last four times: he's a top dog.
 

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Do you think so? He's twenty-eight, so at his peak probably. Surely he wouldn't cost that much? Anyway, what you say confirms what I've thought myself while seeing him play against us the last four times: he's a top dog.
They want £90mil + for him! I agree he'd be amazing but at 28 I highly doubt we go for him.

What I've seen we have proper intrest in Ben White.
 

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Koulibaly. Has anyone seen him play on a regular basis? The four games he has played against us in the last fourteen months or so were fantastic. I wonder whether he plays well all the time, or only on special occasions?
He was fantastic in the games at Naples, where their bog of a pitch slows it all down, I think he got exposed a fair bit at Anfield in 18/19 (Salah made him look a fool) and he was OK last night but once again in a system that suited him - playing really deep with a full back tucked in, a winger who never crossed the half way line and two sitting midfielders.

He look to be probably the best CB in the world in that kind of system and in that sense I'd most closely compare him to being a better version of Harry Maguire. I still think he is slow, cumbersome and average on the ball but if you play in a way that exposes non of those weaknesses then he is brilliant.
 

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That was also a clear penalty by Koulibaly on Salah the other night. He's quality, especially in defensive 1v1 situations. Really strong and solid. However, the whole package; him used to playing LCB, age, price, some other details too... that's a no-go for us. I was a bit surprised he was one of our alternatives to Virgil.
 



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He was fantastic in the games at Naples, where their bog of a pitch slows it all down, I think he got exposed a fair bit at Anfield in 18/19 (Salah made him look a fool) and he was OK last night but once again in a system that suited him - playing really deep with a full back tucked in, a winger who never crossed the half way line and two sitting midfielders.

He look to be probably the best CB in the world in that kind of system and in that sense I'd most closely compare him to being a better version of Harry Maguire. I still think he is slow, cumbersome and average on the ball but if you play in a way that exposes non of those weaknesses then he is brilliant.
Yeah, fair enough. He'd probably have problems to cope with our high line-system. And with the fee mentioned above by Illuvatar, it's a no-go anyway.

Case closed. :giggle:
 

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Personally I think Hoever is the second best RB at the club and I wouldn't be worried at all about playing him, even in a major game.
Larouci isn't ready to support Robertson properly yet so I would support bringing someone in there.

It will be hard to bring in a proper back up for Fabinho, the position is so specialised that I see it as a similar conundrum to the old "Spurs can't buy a striker because no one wants to sit on the bench behind Kane". Well Fabinho is better than almost every other DM and is an immediate starter. As such I don't think Gini/Hendo "doing a job" is too big of a concern.

We don't really use attacking midfielders - we just need to work harder on getting Ox and Keita to perform to their potential. As we have seen over two seasons we can beat 95% of teams without an attacking impetus from midfield.

Agree on the lack of support for the front three. Only Origi and Shaqiri are available and Shaqiri has been out all season with his own injury. We need someone stylistically similar to our current group. Elliott is the closest in style from the Academy but, despite playing well at youth level, he doesn't have enough of a goal threat just yet.

I'd be looking for a versatile attacker and a LB.
Having sat on this for few days, below is what I think.
1. RB - I will concede the point on RB. Coz Gomez, Milner can do a job there. We have got the forgotten man Clyne too! So we can sit on this point for some time - may be till summer. Or if Clyne performs ok and Hoever keeps making progress, even for a year.
2. LB - we agree with each other. If there is a chance of getting someone decent, I will go for it even in Jan, even if its slightly costlier.
3. DM - The way Hendo/Gini plays DM and the way Fab plays are different. We are getting into a period where Hendo/Gini have to play DM. We will see whether we can really survive without getting a cover for Fab for upcoming seasons.
4. AM - I think Keita is a flop, whereas Ox is unreliable as he is injury prone. With Lallana leaving and Milner getting old, I will sell Keita and go for Eriksen, who will be a free agent in summer. So a midfield of Fab, Hendo, Wij, Ox, Milner, Eriksen and Grujic. Also, when I say AM, I don't really mean traditional AM - I mean a number 8 with more attacking and creating nous.
5. LM/RM - we have Shaq, Wilson, Jones and Elliot. I don't know whether any of them will become good enough to be backup choice to Mo, Mane. Shaq was okish last season, but nothing yet this season due to injuries. And his style of play is not a replica of Mo, Mane either. Wilson's same with style of play. Jones and Elliot need 1 or 2 more years. I would sell Shaq and Wilson and get 2 wingers.
So LB, Eriksen, LW and RW. And 1 or 2 of them this Jan.
 

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We Need Attacking Mid Pronto + an attacking forward who can play on left and right to back Mane/Salah. As time goes opponents are flooding the back line and suffocating the space we need someone like Eriksen to break up flooded defence. The problem we have now is no team will play us in an open game and many lower Teams will set up to get a point and hope for a win on the counter.
 

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Always liked Kevin Volland and think he would fit our style better than Timo Werner would. 19 months left on his contract but will be 28 next year - still think he could be the perfect squad player for us.
 



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How's Paco Alcacer compared to both.
Alcacer is a sensational finisher but with a low work rate and too injury prone.

Kevin Volland could cover Firmino and Salah and would fit in so well with his pressing game. 7 goals and 6 assists in 20 games this season.
 

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I guess we need an actual DM backup...Fabinho has been world-class in that position with his sense of awareness...Having Hendo in there will make us quite open than what we can accept.

And we need a back-up forward to Firmino...
 

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I guess we need an actual DM backup...Fabinho has been world-class in that position with his sense of awareness...Having Hendo in there will make us quite open than what we can accept.

And we need a back-up forward to Firmino...
Do you know that Fabinho did play very few games until new year last season where we reached almost 100 points and won the CL?

Before that we reached another CL and EL final with Henderson as the DM.

Trying to criticize Hendo is just bull:poop:
 

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Do you know that Fabinho did play very few games until new year last season where we reached almost 100 points and won the CL?

Before that we reached another CL and EL final with Henderson as the DM.

Trying to criticize Hendo is just bull:poop:

Erm, Fab's PL first start was on 27th October ( which is just about 2 months after the first league game started?) against Cardiff and he pretty much started or got subbed in nearly every league game after that.

I believe we won the CL final and THAT 2nd leg semi-final with Fabinho in DM.

I know this is brutal but with Hendo at the DM position, we did not win anything at all.
 

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Do you know that Fabinho did play very few games until new year last season where we reached almost 100 points and won the CL?

Before that we reached another CL and EL final with Henderson as the DM.

Trying to criticize Hendo is just bull:poop:
Erm, Fab's PL first start was on 27th October ( which is just about 2 months after the first league game started?) against Cardiff and he pretty much started or got subbed in nearly every league game after that.

I believe we won the CL final and THAT 2nd leg semi-final with Fabinho in DM.

I know this is brutal but with Hendo at the DM position, we did not win anything at all.
Just stick milner in there and we can stop all this back and forth before it really kicks in.
 



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I wonder if we'll be looking at bringing Sander Berge in January. Looks a real class player. Big presence aswell. And what about Harry Wilson? Looks like he is a more effective player than Salah these days.
 

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Harry Wilson is on a good scoring record but he won't make it in Liverpool depending on a one trick pony. Its nice to have a great free kick taker but Klopp requires alot more from his players. Wilson at this moment disappears too much during games