Your thoughts on the season to come - Prediction time

sms1986

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Racehorse owners and jockeys receive fines for not trying. Football teams should as well. Teams are allowed to rest players, it is a squad game. But leaving 3 best players on the bench for a game against a much lower team is much more ethically correct than what Everton did tonight. They believed the media narrative that they would lose, so they lost. Newcastle didnt believe it, so they tried to win. Their lack of effort may have a consequence on the title.
I hope Watford hammer them on Saturday, they deserve it.
Like FIlthyBloke said, we've done it before ourselves and probably so has every other team. It's not really sporting, that's true.

I can't believe that Everton would actually fall for the "media narrative" that they would lose. Whilst they did start some of their best players on the bench, they did try to win the game and City were actually quite poor despite their advantages. They did eventually bring two of their best three on, which suggests that, at 1-0, they felt they had a chance of getting something out of the game.
 

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I'm not at the stage where I'm expecting other teams to help us out.
The league title is in our own hands with 2/3 of the season gone FFS.

As mentioned, we did it years ago to give us a better chance of winning another game a few days later.
Dont recall any of our supporters complaining about that.

For the record, I hope Watford hump them, but I did before last night too.
 

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I'm not at the stage where I'm expecting other teams to help us out.
The league title is in our own hands with 2/3 of the season gone FFS.

As mentioned, we did it years ago to give us a better chance of winning another game a few days later.
Dont recall any of our supporters complaining about that.

For the record, I hope Watford hump them, but I did before last night too.
If we beat Bournmouth Saturday I expect us to go on a run to the title. My hope is the two game wobble is down to an illness which when gone we start playing at the level we have been previously.
 

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I'm not at the stage where I'm expecting other teams to help us out.
The league title is in our own hands with 2/3 of the season gone FFS.

As mentioned, we did it years ago to give us a better chance of winning another game a few days later.
Dont recall any of our supporters complaining about that.

For the record, I hope Watford hump them, but I did before last night too.
There is a difference, a genuine difference in my opinion.
But we are going to disagree on it.

Stronger sides will rotate to save players for more important matches, when they are playing lower stakes matches against weaker opposition. Its natural, and it most important it remains competitive.
Everton weakening their team against City is tantamount to surrender. Its them saying we cant do this, so we are not bothered.
That is the equivalent of not trying. The players may have made a token effort but as a club they derrogated their moral duty, that is to TRY.
Liverpool weakened their team against Wolves in the cup, and only hurt themselves. In a league game with a weakened team they will still TRY.
Moral cowardice on Evertons behalf. Not squad rotation.
 

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At this point of the season and where we are in the league - 2nd place on goal difference with a game in hand...., it's so refreshing to see major fan bases send out tweets/messages/articles about our fans getting really behind all the players and help sweep us through to the title.

This was also done when there was some legal stuff going on about Hillsborough...., and here we are now where each of the players need our support. Whether its at Anfield, or its via social media, phone ins or forums....

There is no value in slating individual players for mistakes, or blaming jurgen or owners for not strengthening in January... its done. We are where we are, and with a bit of luck, we will get over the line.

Lets all get behind this team... we are part of it.
 

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There is a difference, a genuine difference in my opinion.
But we are going to disagree on it.

Stronger sides will rotate to save players for more important matches, when they are playing lower stakes matches against weaker opposition. Its natural, and it most important it remains competitive.
Everton weakening their team against City is tantamount to surrender. Its them saying we cant do this, so we are not bothered.
That is the equivalent of not trying. The players may have made a token effort but as a club they derrogated their moral duty, that is to TRY.
Liverpool weakened their team against Wolves in the cup, and only hurt themselves. In a league game with a weakened team they will still TRY.
Moral cowardice on Evertons behalf. Not squad rotation.
Honestly, I think you're overthinking it, I doubt Silva was sat there contemplating the moral ethics of playing a weakened team. The simplest explanation is usually the correct one, and I think the simplest reason was squad rotation.
 

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Racehorse owners and jockeys receive fines for not trying. Football teams should as well. Teams are allowed to rest players, it is a squad game. But leaving 3 best players on the bench for a game against a much lower team is much more ethically correct than what Everton did tonight. They believed the media narrative that they would lose, so they lost. Newcastle didnt believe it, so they tried to win. Their lack of effort may have a consequence on the title.
I hope Watford hammer them on Saturday, they deserve it.
Prior to the Premier League, clubs did get fined for fielding weakened teams in the league. I think it all came to a head years ago when mick mccarthy fielded a wolves second team at old trafford when united were going for the title. The second string actually ran united very close and lost 3-2 if I remember.

Wolves and McCarthy argued how could they be fined or docked point when the 2nd string very nearly got a result. the PL agreed and clubs dropped th eidea of fining other clubs for fielding weakened teams.

In this era of the PL and owners like mansour, what financial fine is going to hurt them? Dock points? who really is to say what constitutes a weaked team?
 

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There is a difference, a genuine difference in my opinion.
But we are going to disagree on it.

Stronger sides will rotate to save players for more important matches, when they are playing lower stakes matches against weaker opposition. Its natural, and it most important it remains competitive.
Everton weakening their team against City is tantamount to surrender. Its them saying we cant do this, so we are not bothered.
That is the equivalent of not trying. The players may have made a token effort but as a club they derrogated their moral duty, that is to TRY.
Liverpool weakened their team against Wolves in the cup, and only hurt themselves. In a league game with a weakened team they will still TRY.
Moral cowardice on Evertons behalf. Not squad rotation.
2 games, one they were unlikely to win even with a full strength side, and one they probably have a good chance of winning with a full strength side.
Hypothetically, in game one, they play the 3 left out and 2 of them get injured and one gets sent off.

I know which option I'd go for.

But we are going to disagree on it so we'll leave it here.
 

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Honestly, I think you're overthinking it, I doubt Silva was sat there contemplating the moral ethics of playing a weakened team. The simplest explanation is usually the correct one, and I think the simplest reason was squad rotation.
Honestly I am not. I dont really over analyse stuff, I just say what I see.
Just a different view, thats all.
 

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Honestly, I think you're overthinking it, I doubt Silva was sat there contemplating the moral ethics of playing a weakened team. The simplest explanation is usually the correct one, and I think the simplest reason was squad rotation.
Even if he'd have fielded his strongest team, and set rotation aside, yeah fck all difference
 

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Yes whoever Everton fielded yesterday would not make a difference against City. Their entire team is shit, not a single player I would want to bring to our side as a squad player. Not even Gomes.
 

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Yes whoever Everton fielded yesterday would not make a difference against City. Their entire team is shit, not a single player I would want to bring to our side as a squad player. Not even Gomes.
Not even Gueye? I thought he was more than decent DM. Strikes me as the sort who goes under the radar but goes about his business efficiently.
 

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Not even Gueye? I thought he was more than decent DM. Strikes me as the sort who goes under the radar but goes about his business efficiently.
You saw the goals they conceded? Even Mascherano on his hey days won’t be able to stop them from going in.
 

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Not even Gueye? I thought he was more than decent DM. Strikes me as the sort who goes under the radar but goes about his business efficiently.
Fucking wasted there isn't he,played really well yesterday being very strong in the tackle and breaking.
 

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You saw the goals they conceded? Even Mascherano on his hey days won’t be able to stop them from going in.
right - but you said you wouldnt bring any of them in as a squad player - i would have thought he was someone most fans here wouldnt mind having a look at.
 

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Yes whoever Everton fielded yesterday would not make a difference against City. Their entire team is shit, not a single player I would want to bring to our side as a squad player. Not even Gomes.
their entire team may be shit,
but on the 3rd March, watch them play with ambition, determination,
and with a tactic that involves kicking lumps out of the opposition,

wankers.....
 

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Yes whoever Everton fielded yesterday would not make a difference against City. Their entire team is shit, not a single player I would want to bring to our side as a squad player. Not even Gomes.
Was never the point though. Cowardice on their behalf.
 

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lol! 12 games to go. Each one is a cup final. We could really do with another blip from City but I guess we should just sit back and enjoy the ride. Even if we don't win it this year, we are challenging, and that is where we want to be.
Chelsea tomorrow will be a real tough one for them, they've just been pushed to 5th so you'd expect them to really go for it.

I don't see us dropping any points at Anfield this season the key will be getting the wins v's Spurs and Chelsea and not drawing. Do that and I think we win the title.
 

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Eggheads and Mensa members what are the next 12 numbers in the following sequence ?
1, 3, 4, 6, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, .........
 

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Chelsea tomorrow will be a real tough one for them, they've just been pushed to 5th so you'd expect them to really go for it.

I don't see us dropping any points at Anfield this season the key will be getting the wins v's Spurs and Chelsea and not drawing. Do that and I think we win the title.
I'd never back Chelsea for moral reasons unless under extreme circumstances, if we had 8 points to make up on City in 12 games for example. I sincerely don't want sicko Chavs fans deluding their tiny plastic minds into thinking we only won the league because they took 6 points off City. City should win on merit just as we will win the league.
 

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I'd never back Chelsea for moral reasons unless under extreme circumstances, if we had 8 points to make up on City in 12 games for example. I sincerely don't want sicko Chavs fans deluding their tiny plastic minds into thinking we only won the league because they took 6 points off City. City should win on merit just as we will win the league.
Does the morality thing not work with citeh then,if not maybe a bit more,
 



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Does the morality thing not work with citeh then,if not maybe a bit more,
You gotta remember 11 months ago Roman's contact in the Kreml targeted my hometown as the setting for an attack which lead to four people surviving with serious health problems and one dead. Probably taking it too personally.

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Margins are fine. 11 wins and a draw will do. Losing to City and drawing to Leicester and West Ham has been frustrating. All games we should have done better in. Goal difference between us and City is now 10. Hopefully City drop a few points. We're still doing good but if we want to win the league then we need to be close to perfect.
 

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Chelsea tomorrow will be a real tough one for them, they've just been pushed to 5th so you'd expect them to really go for it.

I don't see us dropping any points at Anfield this season the key will be getting the wins v's Spurs and Chelsea and not drawing. Do that and I think we win the title.
Well this post aged very badly..