Your thoughts on the season to come - Prediction time

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Although there's an argument for prioritising the PL, the reality is that we'll go all out with the strongest 11 in the CL next week and see what happens.

The CL is certainly interesting. If we get past Munich then two of the main forces of the past 7 or 8 years will be out, with all their experience of the tournament.

I'm not sure what impact seedings would have on the draw, if some higher seeded sides have gone. Would we then have a chance of getting a lesser of the remaining sides as one of the best ranked remaining sides?

No opposition would be easy, but if get through next week and get a decent quarter final, it could open up.

United or Spurs wouldn't even be bad draws in Europe, with unbiased refs and home and away ties.

Let's hope we get past Munich, it would be good for our coefficient and morale and who knows what could happen thereafter.
 

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Although there's an argument for prioritising the PL, the reality is that we'll go all out with the strongest 11 in the CL next week and see what happens.

The CL is certainly interesting. If we get past Munich then two of the main forces of the past 7 or 8 years will be out, with all their experience of the tournament.

I'm not sure what impact seedings would have on the draw, if some higher seeded sides have gone. Would we then have a chance of getting a lesser of the remaining sides as one of the best ranked remaining sides?

No opposition would be easy, but if get through next week and get a decent quarter final, it could open up.

United or Spurs wouldn't even be bad draws in Europe, with unbiased refs and home and away ties.

Let's hope we get past Munich, it would be good for our coefficient and morale and who knows what could happen thereafter.
There is no seeding going forward in any respect.

If we get through Bayern then the optimal draw would be either Porto or Ajax. With Real and PSG both out, possibly Juventus as well, the draw becomes a bit more open.
 

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Appears the draw for the semi-final and final will also be done at the same time.

 

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Appears the draw for the semi-final and final will also be done at the same time.

Same as last season.
 

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Appears the draw for the semi-final and final will also be done at the same time.

Don't encourage the conspiracy theorists :shocked:
 

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Could City get a European ban with this latest investigation (it would be their second time caught)? If so we need to win Premiership this year as they would obviously have less matches over the next few years. Not sure what penalties I want them to get. Possibly Euro ban, huge fine (9 figure?), and FA docks them points & restricts their squads for next 3 years would be a start.
 

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Could City get a European ban with this latest investigation (it would be their second time caught)? If so we need to win Premiership this year as they would obviously have less matches over the next few years. Not sure what penalties I want them to get. Possibly Euro ban, huge fine (9 figure?), and FA docks them points & restricts their squads for next 3 years would be a start.
Pretty certain the FA can't dock them points. EPL is not under their jurisdiction. It is wholly owned and run by the member clubs.
 

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Could City get a European ban with this latest investigation (it would be their second time caught)? If so we need to win Premiership this year as they would obviously have less matches over the next few years. Not sure what penalties I want them to get. Possibly Euro ban, huge fine (9 figure?), and FA docks them points & restricts their squads for next 3 years would be a start.
It was mentioned by someone from Fifa that a ban might be an option if found guilty. Obviously city fans wouldnt care because they don't like the champions league anyway
 

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There is no seeding going forward in any respect.

If we get through Bayern then the optimal draw would be either Porto or Ajax. With Real and PSG both out, possibly Juventus as well, the draw becomes a bit more open.
Obviously we have to get through first, but if we do it's good to know we have an equal chance of one of the better ties.

United, Spurs, Ajax, Porto through so far. I was pleased Roma went out, as a tie with them would have been nasty after last season.

Athletico Madrid would be tough, but Juventus tougher, so I hope Athletico do it.

It'd be nice if City came unstuck, even if it'd help them in the PL, as I just don't want that awful club getting its grubby hands on big ears and the sooner they go out the better. It might tempt Pep away to Juventus, and together with the investigation into them, might turn the tide a bit.
 

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Has been that way for a while I think
Not as I recall. Just taking last year, there was a draw after the quarterfinals (where most fans here were, rightfully, hoping for Roma):


I think that has been the historical practice; I missed that the draw protocols had changed.

But, presumably, with the semifinal draw occurring next Friday as well, teams will know who they’d play (the winner of) if they advance, obviating the need for a post-quarters draw.

Unless I’m missing something here.
 
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Obviously, the only real concern or interest I have is us finishing first.

However, how fucking hilarious would the below scenario be?

  1. Liverpool
  2. Man City
  3. Chelsea
  4. Man Utd

CL winners - Spurs
EL winners - Arsenal.

Man Utd would drop to the EL lol
 

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I don't know hat that is about to be honest. I certainly don't think its about people. Ferguson, Dalglish, etc. all from Glasgow and all know each other really well. And that goes way back with Shankly etc. The rivalry between fans has always been there but for some reason he felt it necessary to stoke the fire to a new level. Maybe a way of starting a bit of a siege mentality perhaps?
I am pretty sure Fergie did the same when at Aberdeen,
he created a them and us mentality against the old firm,

forcing it into his players that ,
the old firm were the enemy, and the benchmark, and to to win league titles
you had to go to Glasgow and beat the old firm at their place
to put them in their place.

TBF it bloody worked!

Fergie and Jim Maclean (another old school manager) battered the old firm,
on very limited resources, in comparison to the old firm.
 

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The next three PL matches will be key. We go to Fulham, then City go there whilst we face Spurs the next day. If we go top at Fulham and beat Spurs, then negotiate the tough trip to Southampton, we could have a five point lead before City play Cardiff on April 6th, albeit with two games in hand.

But that'd be nice, because after Cardiff at home City have a tougher run, with Palace away, Spurs at home, United away, Burnley away and Leicester at home. Palace have enough quality to do something at home against them, how ironic it'd be if this time City came unstuck there after 2014.

If we've beaten Spurs, they might be desperate for points in relation to finishing top 4 when they play City, ditto United. Burnley could give City a game at home, whilst a Brendan Rodgers Leicester might also help us.

Our matches won't be easy either, but we need to win the next three to put pressure on and set us up for the final five matches.

It'd be fascinating if ex manager Rodgers hurt City and the same day we beat Rafa's Newcastle. If Hodgson's Palace do something against them too, maybe a flag comprising the faces of Rodgers, Rafa, Hodgson and Klopp will sit nicely behind the one of ex managers currently flying on The Kop.
 

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The next three PL matches will be key. We go to Fulham, then City go there whilst we face Spurs the next day. If we go top at Fulham and beat Spurs, then negotiate the tough trip to Southampton, we could have a five point lead before City play Cardiff on April 6th, albeit with two games in hand.

But that'd be nice, because after Cardiff at home City have a tougher run, with Palace away, Spurs at home, United away, Burnley away and Leicester at home. Palace have enough quality to do something at home against them, how ironic it'd be if this time City came unstuck there after 2014.

If we've beaten Spurs, they might be desperate for points in relation to finishing top 4 when they play City, ditto United. Burnley could give City a game at home, whilst a Brendan Rodgers Leicester might also help us.

Our matches won't be easy either, but we need to win the next three to put pressure on and set us up for the final five matches.

It'd be fascinating if ex manager Rodgers hurt City and the same day we beat Rafa's Newcastle. If Hodgson's Palace do something against them too, maybe a flag comprising the faces of Rodgers, Rafa, Hodgson and Klopp will sit nicely behind the one of ex managers currently flying on The Kop.
Crystal Palace playing at home are pretty shite to honest. They have a better away record
 

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The next three PL matches will be key. We go to Fulham, then City go there whilst we face Spurs the next day. If we go top at Fulham and beat Spurs, then negotiate the tough trip to Southampton, we could have a five point lead before City play Cardiff on April 6th, albeit with two games in hand.

But that'd be nice, because after Cardiff at home City have a tougher run, with Palace away, Spurs at home, United away, Burnley away and Leicester at home. Palace have enough quality to do something at home against them, how ironic it'd be if this time City came unstuck there after 2014.

If we've beaten Spurs, they might be desperate for points in relation to finishing top 4 when they play City, ditto United. Burnley could give City a game at home, whilst a Brendan Rodgers Leicester might also help us.

Our matches won't be easy either, but we need to win the next three to put pressure on and set us up for the final five matches.

It'd be fascinating if ex manager Rodgers hurt City and the same day we beat Rafa's Newcastle. If Hodgson's Palace do something against them too, maybe a flag comprising the faces of Rodgers, Rafa, Hodgson and Klopp will sit nicely behind the one of ex managers currently flying on The Kop.
It's unlikely that game will be played on April 6th.
It'll become clearer after Saturday.
 

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We need to catch fire now and just start winning every game. That's the only way we have a chance - just don't think about it and keep winning. A lot depends on the front 3 staying healthy and in good form.
 

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This is going right to the wire, May 12th will throw up varying emotions.
Many will be devastated if we fall short.

Many will be like "Ah well, what's for dinner?"
 

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This is going right to the wire, May 12th will throw up varying emotions.
Many will be devastated if we fall short.

Many will be like "Ah well, what's for dinner?"
Personally, I'll be disappointed but looking forward to another title challenge next season. Regardless of whether we finish first or second, we've had a great season and we're only going to get better.
 

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This is going right to the wire, May 12th will throw up varying emotions.
Many will be devastated if we fall short.

Many will be like "Ah well, what's for dinner?"
Oddly I dont think I will be devastated - annoyed maybe but Its been so many seasons since Ive seen us win the league I'm at the point where I'm like - Oh well what you gonna do? Im used to it now.
Its a miracle we have kept up with City so far. How do you compete with a team thats financially backed by a country? LFC are doing things the right way but that will probably mean we come up short.
I've always said our midfield is a playmaker/scorer of goals short and I still think that.
Shaq and Keita haven't added anything so far to a midfield that was in need of goals and creativity - Shaq cant even get on now.
We went for Fekir - didnt happen - and then decided against getting someone else like that.
What we have done so far is nothing short of amazing but we just need that little bit more quality in the squad.
 

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Oddly I dont think I will be devastated - annoyed maybe but Its been so many seasons since Ive seen us win the league I'm at the point where I'm like - Oh well what you gonna do? Im used to it now.
Its a miracle we have kept up with City so far. How do you compete with a team thats financially backed by a country? LFC are doing things the right way but that will probably mean we come up short.
I've always said our midfield is a playmaker/scorer of goals short and I still think that.
Shaq and Keita haven't added anything so far to a midfield that was in need of goals and creativity - Shaq cant even get on now.
We went for Fekir - didnt happen - and then decided against getting someone else like that.
What we have done so far is nothing short of amazing but we just need that little bit more quality in the squad.
I'm fairly sure I will, but for some time now have inwardly prepared myself for it.
 

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I am optimistic about the title, most of the time. Maybe I cannot contemplate the dissapointment. It took me ages to get over the travesty in Kiev last year, and the finality of the Suarez year, title loss.
There have been some devastating blows....probably the Wimbledon FA cup final loss hurt for so many reasons, the Arsenal winning the league at Anfield, all major losses and abject emptiness for me.
I cant think about that this year....
 

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Ideal draw would be City, Juve and Barce in one half of the draw and us in the other with Ajax and Porto.

Probably would prefer Spurs as the 4th team in our side and United in the other.

Really hope we win it this year, can't stomach another English club getting their grubby hands on big ears. It'd be nice to have double the wins of the nearest English club.
 

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I am optimistic about the title, most of the time. Maybe I cannot contemplate the dissapointment. It took me ages to get over the travesty in Kiev last year, and the finality of the Suarez year, title loss.
There have been some devastating blows....probably the Wimbledon FA cup final loss hurt for so many reasons, the Arsenal winning the league at Anfield, all major losses and abject emptiness for me.
I cant think about that this year....
Abject emptiness for me was the end of the 2014/15 season. A completely miserable season topped off with a 6-1 defeat at Stoke and an embarrassing CL campaign that rather being the great return to the top table as we all hoped it would be, just reinforced how irrelevant we had become.

If we miss out on the title then obviously I will be disappointed but I can cope with disappointment. It's not having any hope that I find difficult to accept, but at least we have that under Klopp.
 

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Won't be easy, but generally happy with that draw.

Hope the first leg is the Tuesday after the Southampton Friday night game so that the second leg is the Wednesday after the Chelsea Sunday match.

Can't see them making us play Chelsea Sunday then CL QF Tuesday and Chelsea will play Thursday night in the Europa League so can't play Saturday.

A tough semi awaits if we get through, though the Friday night match before the first leg would be helpful. The semi final would have a second leg at home too, which would be preferable.

A nasty final awaits if we get that far given the history with Juve and rivalry with City.

It would be amazing though, to win the league and then take the CL from under their noses too.