Your thoughts on the season to come - Prediction time

Nevoo34

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7 games to go and with each great escape we do like we did today, we will gain momentum. Obviously, I would like us to smash teams the way City do but in the end, they get the same points as us.
They don't though, 2 slim 1 nils against West ham and Bournemouth and needed a helping hand against Watford too.
 

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For me win the next 3, Spurs, Southampton & Chelsea and we will do it, City's April is brutal and I really believe they will drop points somewhere in that run.

If they win all 8 from here fair fucks but fuck it, we are winning this fucking title and big ears too.
I think you're right, win the next 3 and we win the league but on current form it's a big ask. Southampton away worries me than Chelsea at home.
 

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We can't really assess things until we know what state the squad is in after the break.

It's one match at a time, but the next five matches will certainly have a huge bearing. Come off that pitch away at Porto with a semi secured after another three PL wins, a sequence of five PL wins in a row, and it'll be huge.

To achieve this we simply have to do better offensively. We can't miss the chances we do and we can't fail to create chances at all from positions we find ourselves in, like Salah running through the middle in space and it just resulting in a scuffed shot, or a full back being in behind and it just being cut out.

It will come down to using the right players at the right time, especially in midfield.

I've seen enough to firmly believe that Klopp's use of Henderson will have a huge bearing.
 

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Given the fixture changes announced yesterday, if City are going to drop points it'll be in April, when they've a match every midweek and a few times they've only two days off between matches.

If they're still in control of the title race by May, I don't see them dropping points against Leicester at home or Brighton away in their last two matches. Even if they're still in the CL, the end will be in sight and mentally they'll be well up for it.

I think that whoever is in control by the time we play Huddersfield will win it, as I think the relegation battle will be resolved by then and Burnley away won't be a banana skin for City.

We are two points ahead and play four matches before Huddersfield. City play five matches in this time. If we win against Spurs, Southampton, Chelsea and Cardiff, then City will need to win all their matches to be above us before the final three matches.

Unless Fulham pull something out of the bag in what is perhaps their last chance to survive, City will win the first two matches (including Cardiff).

The potential issues for City in the PL are at Palace away, a fifth match in two weeks and with Spurs in the CL to follow midweek, followed by Spurs at home in the PL and then United away.

City could drop between two points to seven points from that fifteen. If we can win our next four, we'd then at the very least have the title race in our hands, and ideally be able to drop points at Newcastle between any CL semi legs.

At the start of the season we said we needed to beat the lesser sides more and take more points from the matches against the top 6.

We've progressed in both respects, augmenting this with wins against two top six sides and two relegation threatened ones over the next four matches, would be the ideal way to take back control of the title race and maybe put us on the brink of winning it.
 

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We really need to win the next two against Spurs and Southampton. Hard to see City doing anything other than improving their goal difference against Fulham and Cardiff and we can't afford to fall behind before we play Chelsea. That day could be the most significant in the title race. City play Palace who have become a bit of a bogey team for them. Not only beat them at the Eithad but got a 0-0 home draw last season and missed a last minute penalty. Hodgson's negative game plan works well against the better teams and they could get something there. We play Chelsea almost 5 years to the day since the Gerrard slip. They are our bogey team, at least at Anfield. Not beaten there since 2012. Tough game potentially but it depends what version of Chelsea actually turns up.

If we're still ahead then the title really opens up for us. Huddersfield and Cardiff are just much worse than we are and Newcastle and Wolves should be on the beach by the time we play them so the last 4 look very winnable. Nerves and pressure will definitely be a factor then though. The media narrative has been nerves and pressure getting to us since the City defeat but I don't think they have kicked in yet. We have just had difficulty in being completely perfect whilst City have kept winning. We are 15 points clear of everyone else so the results haven't been bad. They just haven't been as good as they needed to be to stay ahead of City.
 
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I think you're right, win the next 3 and we win the league but on current form it's a big ask. Southampton away worries me than Chelsea at home.
I agree. Spurs on mother days as well. I have got the in laws coming around and he’s a big spurs fan though a tough day if we lose. On the plus side, a client just GAVE me 4 tickets for Southampton away. Completely free and out of the blue. It’s a sign from god.
 

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I agree. Spurs on mother days as well. I have got the in laws coming around and he’s a big spurs fan though a tough day if we lose. On the plus side, a client just GAVE me 4 tickets for Southampton away. Completely free and out of the blue. It’s a sign from god.
What's your record like when going to games is the big question?
 

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What's your record like when going to games is the big question?
I’ m ok but my wife went to 7 away defeats in a row in the last few seasons combined. Obviously she doesn’t go to every away game but did seem to come to everyone we lost including palace away in the pouring rain about 3 years ago. I think at that point she was having doubts about carrying on but I think the last one she went to was 4.0 at West Ham last year so she’s back in the fold.
 

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I tell you what I am drained today.... that was tough yesterday.

My heart felt so heavy after they scored. Like the Hope had diminished. Like a flickering candle, about to blow out....
And then just pandemonium.

And today, my heart is glowing..... I'm looking around the skies, birds, trees - and just contemplating how this world works. How can Salah's tame header, be saved but then trickle in? How does VVD keep 2 players out?

There is no better drama. Nothing even close.
 

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Latest round of fixtures to be changed for TV will be released on Friday.
Only game that will affect us is Newcastle.
Id say it's guaranteed to be changed for TV with the most likely outcome 1730 on Saturday 4th May.
 

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Latest round of fixtures to be changed for TV will be released on Friday.
Only game that will affect us is Newcastle.
Id say it's guaranteed to be changed for TV with the most likely outcome 1730 on Saturday 4th May.
Is that sandwiched between the Barca semi's?
 

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Latest round of fixtures to be changed for TV will be released on Friday.
Only game that will affect us is Newcastle.
Id say it's guaranteed to be changed for TV with the most likely outcome 1730 on Saturday 4th May.
No surprise to learn today that we've been give the second game on Sunday 5th May.
I should have known better.
 

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I did a few basic calculations for the remaining matches, based on how many points our remaining opponents are picking up at home or away (based on where we play them) and then did the same for City’s last six opponents.

The first number after the team’s name is the number of games played by that team either home or away this season. The second is the number of points collected in those games; the third is the average PPG, rounded to two decimal places.

Us
Chelsea (H) 16 28 1.75
Cardiff (A) 17 20 1.18
Huddersfield (H) 16 6 0.38
Newcastle (A) 16 22 1.38
Wolves (H) 16 20 1.25
Average 1.19

City
Palace (A) 16 16 1.00
Spurs (H) 17 33 1.94
Man Utd (A) 15 32 2.13
Burnley (A) 16 20 1.25
Leicester (H) 16 21 1.31
Brighton (A) 15 22 1.47
Average 1.52

Viewed from this perspective, City face a tougher run-in than ours; as I wrote much earlier in this thread, given a level playing field we should win the league.
 

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I did a few basic calculations for the remaining matches, based on how many points our remaining opponents are picking up at home or away (based on where we play them) and then did the same for City’s last six opponents.

The first number after the team’s name is the number of games played by that team either home or away this season. The second is the number of points collected in those games; the third is the average PPG, rounded to two decimal places.

Us
Chelsea (H) 16 28 1.75
Cardiff (A) 17 20 1.18
Huddersfield (H) 16 6 0.38
Newcastle (A) 16 22 1.38
Wolves (H) 16 20 1.25
Average 1.19

City
Palace (A) 16 16 1.00
Spurs (H) 17 33 1.94
Man Utd (A) 15 32 2.13
Burnley (A) 16 20 1.25
Leicester (H) 16 21 1.31
Brighton (A) 15 22 1.47
Average 1.52

Viewed from this perspective, City face a tougher run-in than ours; as I wrote much earlier in this thread, given a level playing field we should win the league.
Palace were awful today and were really lucky to beat Newcastle so I don't hold out much hope in the next one. Our chances really depend on what Spurs and Man United do and whether we can run the gauntlet ourselves and win all the way in.
 
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Palace were awful today and were really lucky to beat Newcastle so I don't hold out much hope in the next one. Our chances really depend on what Spurs and Man United do and whether we can run the gauntlet ourselves and win all the way in.
Remember the only teams to have taken points off city this season are Palace, Newcastle, Leicester and Wolves - and of course ourselves and Chelsea. The away games to Palace and Burnley will be tricky. Leicester at home could be good too. And brighton last game of season could be interesting if they still need a point to guarantee safety... So its not just Spurs and United.
 

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Remember the only teams to have taken points off city this season are Palace, Newcastle, Leicester and Wolves - and of course ourselves and Chelsea. The away games to Palace and Burnley will be tricky. Leicester at home could be good too. And brighton last game of season could be interesting if they still need a point to guarantee safety... So its not just Spurs and United.
There's also the revenge factor after yesterday's game.
 

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We haven’t beaten Chelsea in 6 home games in the league going back to 2012.
Cardiff away in the league we only have one game in recent time and that was a 6-3 win.
Huddersfield at home we have only one game in recent time and that was last season which was 3-0 win.
Our last six away games at Newcastle reads one win, two draws and three defeats.
Wolves at home we haven’t really played much in the league in last 9 years but that’s one win and one defeat.

Basically none of our fixtures should be taken lightly.
 

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Good result today and not so good yesterday.

Palace won and are practically saved from relegation. I have the nasty feeling that they won't be 100% concentrated next week.
Burnley are 90% safe too, Leicester and BHA /final game of the season/ will play for nothing by the time they play &ity.
Our only realistic chance for them to lose points is Spurs at home and Manure away.
Well, spurs always find their way to fail at the end and I don't believe they can steal points at the Emptihad.
Manure away could be tough, but only if the red mancs have incentive to win. They need to have realistic chance to be in top 4. So Everton's win was good for us. Hopefully Manure will win their next two games vs. West Ham /home/ and Everton /away/ and if Arsenal lose points in at least one of their two next games it will be game on for Shitskjer and his ladies.
So /I never believed I 'd say that, but.../ I hope for 3 consecutive wins for Manure /hopefully they lose the tie vs. Barca, so their only hope of playing CL next season will be getting in top 4 in the PL/.
If Manure don't have a realistic chance for top 4, it is all clear. They will lose without fight, they hate us much more and every red manc I know prefers their neighbours winning the league. I remember how they played and lost in 2014/2015 vs. City. 0-3 and a total lack of desire to win. They just wanted us to lose and after 5 seasons nothing has changed.

And of course LFC have no room for a single mistake. Chelsea game will be huge.
 

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Good result today and not so good yesterday.

Palace won and are practically saved from relegation. I have the nasty feeling that they won't be 100% concentrated next week.
Burnley are 90% safe too, Leicester and BHA /final game of the season/ will play for nothing by the time they play &ity.
Our only realistic chance for them to lose points is Spurs at home and Manure away.
Well, spurs always find their way to fail at the end and I don't believe they can steal points at the Emptihad.
Manure away could be tough, but only if the red mancs have incentive to win. They need to have realistic chance to be in top 4. So Everton's win was good for us. Hopefully Manure will win their next two games vs. West Ham /home/ and Everton /away/ and if Arsenal lose points in at least one of their two next games it will be game on for Shitskjer and his ladies.
So /I never believed I 'd say that, but.../ I hope for 3 consecutive wins for Manure /hopefully they lose the tie vs. Barca, so their only hope of playing CL next season will be getting in top 4 in the PL/.
If Manure don't have a realistic chance for top 4, it is all clear. They will lose without fight, they hate us much more and every red manc I know prefers their neighbours winning the league. I remember how they played and lost in 2014/2015 vs. City. 0-3 and a total lack of desire to win. They just wanted us to lose and after 5 seasons nothing has changed.

And of course LFC have no room for a single mistake. Chelsea game will be huge.
Depends how you look at things. Palace and Burnley might play with more freedom and actually have a go instead of sitting back and waiting to be picked off.
Man U and Spurs will both be in the mix for CL places when they play City, neither will have qualified already or be out of the running.
Leicester could still have a chance of Eurooean football by the time they play City.
Brighton might need points to avoid relegation.
That said I'll be surprised if any of them take points off the FFP abusers. It's all a bit shit really.
 

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Good result today and not so good yesterday.

Palace won and are practically saved from relegation. I have the nasty feeling that they won't be 100% concentrated next week.
Burnley are 90% safe too, Leicester and BHA /final game of the season/ will play for nothing by the time they play &ity.
Our only realistic chance for them to lose points is Spurs at home and Manure away.
Well, spurs always find their way to fail at the end and I don't believe they can steal points at the Emptihad.
Manure away could be tough, but only if the red mancs have incentive to win. They need to have realistic chance to be in top 4. So Everton's win was good for us. Hopefully Manure will win their next two games vs. West Ham /home/ and Everton /away/ and if Arsenal lose points in at least one of their two next games it will be game on for Shitskjer and his ladies.
So /I never believed I 'd say that, but.../ I hope for 3 consecutive wins for Manure /hopefully they lose the tie vs. Barca, so their only hope of playing CL next season will be getting in top 4 in the PL/.
If Manure don't have a realistic chance for top 4, it is all clear. They will lose without fight, they hate us much more and every red manc I know prefers their neighbours winning the league. I remember how they played and lost in 2014/2015 vs. City. 0-3 and a total lack of desire to win. They just wanted us to lose and after 5 seasons nothing has changed.

And of course LFC have no room for a single mistake. Chelsea game will be huge.
I would like to see teams at least give City a game. Wear them out a bit. Since the international break their games have been glorified training sessions. Early goal, then bore everyone into submission with possession football. Dull to watch and I stopped watching them a long time ago, but very effective when you're trying to conserve energy and going for 4 trophies. Whilst all that's been going on we've been scrambling under barbed wire from trench to trench, running on pure adrenaline. Klopp was right. If we win it then we will win it through sheer willpower.

I will be disappointed if Palace don't give them a game. Bit of a bogey team for them and Hodgson's negativity and their quality in attacking positions should make that more of a test than anything else they've had recently. Spurs are good but rarely do well against the better teams. I have more faith in Brighton on the last day getting anything than I do United. I can not imagine Solskjaer wanting his legendary status tarnished by being the manager who gifted Liverpool number 19.

My dark horse in their run in is Leicester. You can be sure BR will be bang up for that one. Chance to outwit Pep. Look good on his CV.