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Your thoughts on the season to come - Prediction time

Antiope

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As long as we challenge for the league, and maintain that challenge until March at least if not win, and win a cup I will be happy.
 


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Funny how everyone talks about man city, and forgets that there is another Manchester team too which will fight for the title. In my opinion and applying simple logic, this will be a contest between five teams, as Arsenal will likely have to rebuild a little bit and are starting from a lower position. Chelsea on the other hand can't be discounted. They have already often won the PL title with a new manager on board. Having EL football on Thursdays could be a handicap for them though, hopefully they'll have a long run in that competition...

If we can mount together a good and consistent run in the league, we'll be among the contenders. But it's far from a foregone conclusion for the time being. Last season, we were a joy to watch more often than not, but there was not enough consistency to mount a proper challenge in the league. Will we be more consistent? Much will depend on the new signings bedding in right away. Especially Keita should be a key player for us. If he can stay fit and quickly integrate the way this team plays, then we should be able to become more consistent.

And of course, injuries. This has hampered us so often in the past that I don't really reckon anymore with anything else than an injury-riddled season. Players will be out, and it will then depend very strongly on who is out. Touch wood that our front three can stay fit most of the time, then we should maybe have enough depth to challenge for the title. But any crisis hitting the same area of the pitch, as we have witnessed repeatedly already, will see us losing points and the chance to contest for first place. So, luck is very much a factor here.

Truth be told, to see us as favourites for the title (as Mourinho tries to make believe people) would be crazy. The two manc clubs have invested far, far more than us over the last five years. Their squads are deeper, and studded with world-class players, especially the blue mancs. Meanwhile, Tottenham are quietly keeping their whole team together. They are among my favourites for the title. The fact they don't spend gazillions in the market this summer will work in their favour imo. They have an experienced, well-rounded, close-knitted squad, led by one of the best managers around. They will be strong, make no mistake, and it could easily end up to be their year.

So, we'll see how it goes, but I'd give us 20% chances at the very most to make it, luck playing a big part in it. Anyone expecting us to make it to 100 points or what not and to run away with the league title should forget it right away. The other clubs won't let us do that as easily as we'd want for.

I for one can see us as very strong in 19/20, if all the best players are still among us, and with all the superb players brought in this summer truly settled. This coming season is still very much about consolidation for me, not yet about winning the title.
 
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Arsenal and Chelsea have new managers who will have new approaches and who players will need to impress all over again. Arsenal appear to have strengthened. I’m not sure what Chelsea are doing right now. I sense that clubs like Everton and West Ham might have a bigger say this season. Spurs, City and United will be as tough as ever. Securing a Top 4 position will be a bigger challenge than it was last season but I think we are already better equipped for that challenge than this time last season. Bring it on .......
 

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Funny how everyone talks about man city, and forgets that there is another Manchester team too which will fight for the title. In my opinion and applying simple logic, this will be a contest between five teams, as Arsenal will likely have to rebuild a little bit and are starting from a lower position. Chelsea on the other hand can't be discounted. They have already often won the PL title with a new manager on board. Having EL football on Thursdays could be a handicap for them though, hopefully they'll have a long run in that competition...

If we can mount together a good and consistent run in the league, we'll be among the contenders. But it's far from a foregone conclusion for the time being. Last season, we were a joy to watch more often than not, but there was not enough consistency to mount a proper challenge in the league. Will we be more consistent? Much will depend on the new signings bedding in right away. Especially Keita should be a key player for us. If he can stay fit and quickly integrate the way this team plays, then we should be able to become more consistent.

And of course, injuries. This has hampered us so often in the past that I don't really reckon anymore with anything else than an injury-riddled season. Players will be out, and it will then depend very strongly on who is out. Touch wood that our front three can stay fit most of the time, then we should maybe have enough depth to challenge for the title. But any crisis hitting the same area of the pitch, as we have witnessed repeatedly already, will see us losing points and the chance to contest for first place. So, luck is very much a factor here.

Truth be told, to see us as favourites for the title (as Mourinho tries to make believe people) would be crazy. The two manc clubs have invested far, far more than us over the last five years. Their squads are deeper, and studded with world-class players, especially the blue mancs. Meanwhile, Tottenham are quietly keeping their whole team together. They are among my favourites for the title. The fact they don't spend gazillions in the market this summer will work in their favour imo. They have an experienced, well-rounded, close-knitted squad, led by one of the best managers around. They will be strong, make no mistake, and it could easily end up to be their year.

So, we'll see how it goes, but I'd give us 20% chances at the very most to make it, luck playing a big part in it. Anyone expecting us to make it to 100 points or what not and to run away with the league title should forget it right away. The other clubs won't let us do that as easily as we'd want for.

I for one can see us as very strong in 19/20, if all the best players are still among us, and with all the superb players brought in this summer truly settled. This coming season is still very much about consolidation for me, not yet about winning the title.
Hope: can you also give us your 19/20 preview :)
 

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If the transfer window closed right now, we're in the mix for the title, but likely to finish second. If we add Fekir or a similar creative attacking minded player to the mix before it happens, then we win the league. Allows any of the front three to be rested and rotated without a drop in quality, keeping them sharper for the back end of the season and the side competitive if lads have to be rested should we go deep in Europe again.

United, despite Hope's eternal optimism, are on course for an implosion, and I think Mourinho will be gone by the new year. Tottenham have shut up shop, with Levy keeping the money for the stadium payments. Chelsea are being refused left and right, and have a fight to hold on to Courtois and Hazard. City will be stronger, and Arsenal are potential dark horses to come back into the mix.
 



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My thoughts and hopes for the coming season is that we hopefully have a good start and get up and runnig with out attacking flowing football.

Have better luck with injuries so that we can rotate the players throughout the season to have them fresh and fit for the end of season challenges that will hopefully bring the desired finish we all crave, :) SILVER POTS. :)

I am not going to go for big expections or predictions - I want to just enjoy our bright and entertaining footy and see what that will deliver.

For our Good Boss Man Jurgen Klopp, his staff and our Players and our Supporters I sincerely hope we have a healthly and successsful 2018/19. :)
 

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I would be content with a strong league campaign ie.having a good chance of winning it when it comes down to the last few games and getting to cup final.personally I think we are more than capable of doing this and can't wait for the season to kick off.
 

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Hope: can you also give us your 19/20 preview :)
Too many variables yet. I'll let you know when I see more. ;-) But yes, I can see us really really destroying the league and all other competitions if a few key factors go our way from next summer on (making it to the CL again, not too many long key injuries, keeping the core of the team together, further strengthening, etc.).
 

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It's going to be the end of August before we can properly predict this.

We need to see what injuries come from pre-season and the early matches. We need to see who the club sells and what other clubs do.

Above all, we need to see that LFC doesn't cave in to any 'forced' move from a top player.

I don't care if other clubs lose top players, it doesn't excuse us doing so. After the last few years we're due a period when we don't and others do in order to balance things.

We're on an upward curve, we shouldn't be losing top players over the next few years.

It's not exactly morale boosting for those who come to us in order to contribute to our 'project', when the moment they get here we sell a big name.

Let's sell Origi, Ings, Markovic and Mignolet, decide what to do over Grujic and Solanke in terms of loan deals, get a veteran back up keeper to Alisson and really finish the summer off with a morale boosting signing of an outfield player in the last few days before the season starts.

We have depth in defence, even though too many are injury prone. The keeper department is being completely revamped as was necessary.

We've swapped players in midfield in terms of depth (Can and Coutinho out, Oxlade injured, Fab and Keita in, Lallana back from injury). The quality of midfield can be debated season on season. Personally I'd say stronger in DM through Fab versus Can, slightly weaker in AM as Lallana isn't Oxlade and Keita is more 8 than 10, but overall probably stronger.

Up front how much stronger we are depends on how Shaqiri does. We're also going to be light on numbers versus last season if Solanke goes on loan and Ings is sold.

One final signing, someone who can play 10, wide and false 9, would really set us up.
 

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Present thoughts are that I can't wait for it to start. Two weeks from now we'll be busy dissecting our match against West Ham and some will be either enjoying themselves immensely or heading into a pit of despair. No half measures for a few.

Sure some of the more excitable types will come out with at least one of the following:
Alisson is a fantastic signing / why did we sign Alisson?
Clyne's a quality full-back / Clyne's shite, can't wait for TAA to return.
Gomez is really showing some ability now / Klopp should have loaned out Gomez
Fabinho's the new Masch / Fabinho's a poor man's Lucas.
Shaqiri will shake this up now / why did we bother signing that fat, lazy git?
Mané's quality on the left of a front 3 / Mané looks like he's got a post World Cup hangover.
Great work by FSG and Edwards in the summer / FSG and Edwards haven't got a clue.
 



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I think we have to consider both Arsenal and Chelsea as dark horses.

Chelsea, remember, won the title after finishing 10th the previous season. They're group of players really really good when they decide to be so. The danger is of course losing them. Sarri though, did wonders at Napoli. He's brought in Jorginho. If they lose Hazard and/or Courtois it's really bad news for them. But at this moment, we can't be too confident on an implosion.

Arsenal are less of a dark horse but still you never know. Emery did well at Sevilla, but not so much at PSG from what I've read. And Arsenal were so far behind the pace it was laughable. But what is striking is their home form was title winning form. They were just completely abysmal away. If Emery can work something there, they could finish in the top 4. But I think it's likely they'll need more time...and more players i.e. better players.

I'd be concerned as a Tottenham fan. They have some great group of players. But they seem to be settling for "we're happy where we are". When competition for the top 4 slots is so high, that's very very risky. If they stagnate, one of the dark horses can take leapfrog them.

I can see United having a very new-United season: Boring, unimpressive, but still make it in the top 4.

We will probably give City a good go at the title. But I can see us dipping at some point during the season whereas City will stay more consistent since they have a deeper squad.

But as always, predictions like this are fun...but mostly useless as fuck knows what will actually happen. One thing that almost always happens though is something completely unpredictable happens. And we won't know about it til next May!!
 

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I think it's us versus city. Chelsea will flounder as Roman seems to have lost interest and has moved to Israel, Levy won't spend money because he is paying for the stadium, Mourinho is already sulking and will be gone by Christmas. So that just leaves us, city and maybe Arsenal but they were so awful last year it will be a Lazarus like miracle if they can challenge. I'm off to ladbrokes to stick a few quid on each way on both.
 

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It's really difficult, in my opinion, to make an accurate prediction of how we will do this season given that there has been/will be much upheaval in terms of personnel.

For instance, Alisson should be a very good signing given his blatant ability to play, not only as a solid number one, but also the sweeper keeper role but it is worth remembering that he was backup to Wojciech Szczesny not too long ago. Fabinho and Keita should be pretty solid reinforcements for us, although again, they're not exactly proven world-class midfielders. Shaqiri, on the other hand, is a bit of a wildcard but is a fantastic calculated gamble at only £13m and will provide cover for the terrific trio up top. That's not to mention the impact of the inevitable sales to come before the transfer window closes, which, despite being the right thing to do, could cost us in terms of depth as the season goes on.

Furthermore, it's debatable whether some of the surprise packages of last season - namely Salah, Alexander-Arnold and Robertson - can really keep up their sensational form. Salah is obviously very important to the title challenge, while Robertson is much-needed at left back given that the alternative is Moreno. Having said that, I think we can pretty much bank on good performances from Van Dijk, Firmino and Mané given their history of consistency as well as their clear talent.

All in all, I'd expect us to challenge for the title, but I don't think this is the season where we win. There are just too many moving parts - the new signings need some time to settle into Klopp's unique tactical system - so a second or third place finish is most likely. I'll be happy as long as we aren't too far behind the champions and have a right go at the Champions League. Also, hopefully, our new signings will impress and give us a solid foundation on which to build for the following season, where the title is more likely.

In terms of the other teams, I'd expect City, United and Chelsea to be up there but Spurs to regress relative to last season due to their reliance on England's World Cup stars, while Arsenal and Everton will probably need some time to get used to their new managers before they can really improve on last season. I hope the lads can prove me wrong, but I'd expect:

1. City
2. Us
3. Chelsea
4. United
5. Spurs (perhaps the other way around with Arsenal)
6. Arsenal
7. Everton
 

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Premier League - a tussle between us and City all season (and of course we win in the end!). Chelsea and Spurs squeeze United out of the CL spots. Huddersfield, Watford and Southampton for the drop! Fulham are the surprise package, taking some big scalps and comfortably mid-table.

Cups - CL - we cruise through to the semi's but get bumped by Barcelona. FA - we smash everyone and roll Chelsea in the final. LC - we put out the kids and make it through a couple of rounds.

Klopp gets the freedom of the City of Liverpool!!!
 

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Everything's very encouraging, but we need to remember that we have serious competition year in year out and should take nothing for granted.

There are now 6 clubs hell bent on Champions League qualification, whether that's because their entire commercial model is based on it, their owners demand it and will fund it, or they have significant investments in stadia that require it to gain a return.

Three of those clubs have the advantage of being based in London, the two Northern clubs other than us happen to be the biggest commercial machine in English football and the richest club.

Any blips at these clubs are met with swift response, managerial changes, significant investment and quite often a return to the top 4 very quickly.

Of our 5 competitors, how many of them spent almost an entire decade outside top 4?

That's why finishing top 4 last season was crucial and it's why we need to cement ourselves in it for a few years.

It's why we have to be mindful of weak spots that could undermine our season and cause us to slip out. In particular we have to be careful of over-dependence on the front three and ensure we go the extra mile in making sure we are well covered.

To that end, let's hope the bean counters don't get tempted to be too clever and trim out an extra player or two beyond the deadwood (Origi, Ings, Migs, Markovic), as we have to carry a genuine 25 man squad in order to compete on all fronts.

Let's also hope for one more signing to really cover us and give us another feel good boost on the eve of the season.

Origi, Ings, Migs, Markovic out, Woodburn, Ojo and Grujic on loan (but with January recall options) and one more signing.

At this point, I'd keep Solanke.
 



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2nd and the FA Cup.

We have more depth, are putting together one of the better pre seasons and are not so compormised on late arrivals as other top teams, so will get out of the blocks well. Man City probably have too much quality though.
Jose looks like he's ready to shit the bed with Man U, much like he did with Chelsea twice and Real Madrid after a couple of years

The FA cup, because lets be honest we and Klopp need to win something, and this is the most likely target.
 

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I don't think I've been this impatient for the season to start since 1978/79.
Already spent at least an hour today going through permutations for the the starting lineup and bench for the first matchday with half of our first team spine not back in training yet!
 

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Liverpool really did change when VVD came into the squad last year.
During the beginning of the year, a 2-0 lead with 5 minutes to go was in peril.
I feel like Keita, Fabinho and Allisson will further enhance the effect that VVD has already provided.
Liverpool now have the ability to dictate the pace of place in not only the all out guns blazing attack, but also the "ok.... time to suck the life out of this game and have no events happen in the next 20 minutes"
This is very important as dropping points shouldn't happen this year.
I feel like games against the top 6 are what will decided the ultimate league positions this year upcoming.

My feeling.... 2nd place. Maybe not as good in Champions League. Who knows, they could still draw Real Madrid and Dortumund and not go through. FA cup... they'll do better than last year.
 

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Who knows, they could still draw Real Madrid and Dortumund and not go through.
We’ll win our group, no matter who we face. Given fair arbitration, we’ll walk the CL this season- we’ve taken a squad which finished second, robbed in the final, and improved upon it considerably.
 

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If I'm being honest, I have two thoughts....
1) The team played over their heads last season.... it will be extremely difficult to get back to where they were. Chamberlain is a huge loss
2) The addition of Keita, Fabinho and Allison will make us untouchable.

I hope it's the latter, but I also feel that many things went perfect last season. The idea of facing City again is scary.
 



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According to Andy Robertson a few of the new players suffer from a language barrier at the moment, and he would know..
 
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Team most likely to start in the first five fixtures

Alisson
Trent
Virgil
Dejan
Robbo
Fabinho
Milner
Keïta
Mané
Bobby
Mo Salah

Bench:
Karius, Hendo, Klavan, Clyne, Shaquiri, Jones, Sturridge

Fabinho won't keep Henderson out for longer than five games if he struggles.
 

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I just want to say this - I think this is the first time I can remember where it's completely on the players to perform. The excuse of players wanting to jump ship and move to another club 'to win trophies and compete' just won't wash any more. The club have invested heavily and literally have players in every position that every other club in the world would kill for, even RM and Barca. If they don't achieve, its on them. It can't always be everyone else's fault.

In that sense, Suarez and Torres's moves make more sense and Coutinho's and Can's far less so. I still don't understand why they'd jump ship just when they'd started to get the train moving and picking up steam.
 



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I just want to say this - I think this is the first time I can remember where it's completely on the players to perform. The excuse of players wanting to jump ship and move to another club 'to win trophies and compete' just won't wash any more. The club have invested heavily and literally have players in every position that every other club in the world would kill for, even RM and Barca. If they don't achieve, its on them. It can't always be everyone else's fault.

In that sense, Suarez and Torres's moves make more sense and Coutinho's and Can's far less so. I still don't understand why they'd jump ship just when they'd started to get the train moving and picking up steam.
Coutinho maybe I can understand as the draw of Barcelona but its the way he went about it that shows his character but Can just doesn't make sense . he wasn't to know that juve would for sure sign Ronaldo so you can't even use him as a lure
 

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Coutinho maybe I can understand as the draw of Barcelona but its the way he went about it that shows his character but Can just doesn't make sense . he wasn't to know that juve would for sure sign Ronaldo so you can't even use him as a lure
I've said it before in various threads so sorry to bore anyone, but Emré's agent's plan was a fishing trip using the Juve interest to see first if Bayern Munich were biting and then when nothing came from our side of the Alps, to keep Juve as a back-up. He got a bit lucky the lad with Ronaldo, but good luck to him.
 

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I've said it before in various threads so sorry to bore anyone, but Emré's agent's plan was a fishing trip using the Juve interest to see first if Bayern Munich were biting and then when nothing came from our side of the Alps, to keep Juve as a back-up. He got a bit lucky the lad with Ronaldo, but good luck to him.
Have no problem with Can. Say out his contract and always gave his all. Goodluck t him. Didn't throw his rattle out of the pram like coutinho
 

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The FA and the referees have had their preseason meeting and along with the government, the CIA and SMERSH have decreed that the final positions will be as follows;

1 United
2 City
3 Spurs
4 Chelsea
5 LFC
6 Arsenal

Sorry to be the bearer of bad tidings.........:-(
 

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Starting to get a little worried. We've had a good window, the mood at the club seems it's the best it's been in a long time, our rivals are either standing still, bedding in new managers, or potentially imploding.

But still...can't help but worry everything's going a little too well.