Zeljko Buvac

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If we're broken then i don't understand what broken means.doing rather well in the league,beat Napoli 1-0 and we're through,record breaking start,
The attack mate. We've tightened up on the defensive side but the attack , fuck , we are dire.

Don't see when we've offensively dominated a side this season apart from West Ham. It's not all due to the lack of form of the strikers , there's a lot which has had to do with the link up play from the midfield too.

If it's a change of personnel that can lead to some major result changes, i.e keita in and hendo out , I'm all for it.
 

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We are broken without him. Pretty sure it's a fact now.
No way are we broken, the PL table doesn't lie and CL qualification in a tough group is in our hands with one match to play.

We are missing Buvacs tactical nouse in big games though, and for Klopp a massive adaptation is needed after working with Buvac for so many years. This might be why we haven't fired properly on all cylinders yet, because the players also have to adapt to a new guy with new ideas in a key role too.

Have to admit I'm intrigued about what happened with Buvac, especially as it happened so near to the CL final. It's almost unheard of for so little information to come out of a club, there have been no leaks whatever from anyone. Very bizarre.

Hopefully it is not a health issue, though if it was it's likely a statement would have been made by the club by now.

Usually notice periods aren't enforced in football, so if Liverpool FC are holding him to contract (which would explain his name still next to the role in the official management structure) he must have really pissed the club off. Lawyers being used would also snap off information flows and drag contract termination out, but this may suggest a 'non ordinary' specific incident occurred between a Buvac and the club or Klopp if they are involved.

It will all come out in the wash one day, but I'm surprised the press aren't asking more questions. There is also an argument to suggest a press release from the club might be beneficial to let everyone move on, not least the guy doing Buvacs job now as he won't have Zelijko's shadow over him any more.
 
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No way are we broken, the PL table doesn't lie and CL qualification in a tough group is in our hands with one match to play.

We are missing Buvacs tactical nouse in big games though, and for Klopp a massive adaptation is needed after working with Buvac for so many years. This might be why we haven't fired properly on all cylinders yet, because the players also have to adapt to a new guy with new ideas in a key role too.

Have to admit I'm intrigued about what happened with Buvac, especially as it happened so near to the CL final. It's almost unheard of for so little information to come out of a club, there have been no leaks whatever from anyone. Very bizarre.

Hopefully it is not a health issue, though if it was it's likely a statement would have been made by the club by now.

Usually notice periods aren't enforced in football, so if Liverpool FC are holding him to contract (which would explain his name still next to the role in the official management structure) he must have really pissed the club off. Lawyers being used would also snap off information flows and drag contract termination out, but this may suggest a 'non ordinary' specific incident occurred between a Buvac and the club or Klopp if they are involved.

It will all come out in the wash one day, but I'm surprised the press aren't asking more questions. There is also an argument to suggest a press release from the club might be beneficial to let everyone move on, not least the guy doing Buvacs job now as he won't have Zelijko's shadow over him any more.
It's hard to tell with buvac because he's not the type to speak to journalists either.

I remember I opened a thread once asking at what point does an assistant manager stop and think "i could be the front man". Klopp famously said he's the brains who will provide him all the necessary information and constructive feedback, while klopp will gather and sort the right ideas and communicate that back to the players.

Buvac is very introverted and not the type to speak openly to a group. I guess it's ok when it's scripted but not when it's half time and you need to think on your feet. That's necessary

Pep lydgers also has brains and I'm just wondering if FSG fancied him instead because at least he had the willingness to go out on his own because he has his own ideas to implement.

At least now, FSG has a better idea about how Klopp manages without a right hand man. In politics, they say that it's really the vice-president who's pulling strings by advising the president a certain way and it's up to the president to identify how representative this is to the constituents!
 

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We are broken at the top of the PL.:celebrating:
Maybe the new approach towards a more controlled game instead of frenetic was the adjustment we needed. It can't be just down to allison and van dyjk. Also, pep will probably be Klopp's assistant once they figure out what happened with buvac.

The last calendar was quite bizarre seeing michael beale, pep, gerrard and buvac all leaving.
Beale is now an assistant to gerrard at rangers.
 

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I would have thought it would be Krawietz who he seems to consult more often that not when they show them on the bench.

I would assume he would move up and Pep would then move up as currently his role is undefined on the website.
 

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Oh my, someone has Godly expectations here. While I can understand that we had not seen phenomenal attacking play on a Demigod level on december the 1st, maybe the complainer should do well to remember that it was partly a tactical fix with the swap of formations that had the incidental effect of us concedeing little enough to maybe just maybe, maybe, win the league. The last 3 games we have certainly been more than good enough going forwards.
Anyway, I wish Buvac the best, whatever he is doing, but I think it is a private affair due to the lack of leaks. Probably health related or possibly work related, impossible to say. So enough about that until we get actual leaks.
 

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Whatever the reason, the timing seemed strange to me. But it’s water under the bridge now. Good luck to Buvac.

As for us, we aren’t doing too badly! Some of the comments in this thread about our attack haven’t dated well. Still plenty of goals - just much better at the back, yesterday notwithstanding.

I think it’s now 54 goals in 23 Prem games, which stacks up against last season just fine.
 

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There's an article about this by Paul Joyce in the Times. Behind the paywall so can't reprint it here but no clue is given as to the reasons why he went and that's the best aspect of how this whole thing has been handled. No off the record briefings as to the 'real' reason. All kept in-house. Respectful.

All turned out for the best and I hope Buvac returns to football at some stage, assuming he wants to. By all accounts his influence on JK was waning anyway and his departure has had little impact on us. If anything we are showing more tactical nous and flexibility than at any previous time under Klopp.
 

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Hopefully he gets the chance to go and do well somewhere else, as it's been apparent for some time a return to LFC isn't on the cards. I also think we're well past the point of being able to say he left us to take up another opportunity. It's possible we'll never know the real reasons behind his leaving, but I'm glad it wasn't a case of ditching us to go somewhere else.